News Analysis: Senate Race Hanging In Balance
Craig Story Leaves Idaho’s Political Future Up for Grabs
By Jill Kuraitis, 8-28-07
Craig's booking photo from the airport police department in Minneapolis.
When news broke Monday of Idaho Sen. Larry Craig’s arrest and subsequent guilty plea to disorderly conduct for an incident in a men’s bathroom at the Minneapolis airport, it became one of the biggest stories in the history of Idaho politics.
But it’s not as if anyone, especially those in the political media here, could be shocked. Surprised, perhaps, but overall, Monday’s news came with a certain sense of relief: Finally, there was something concrete to the story that had been well-known, but unsubstantiated, for decades.
That relief was fully apparent in today’s Idaho Statesman, where veteran political columnist Dan Popkey finally got to put months of work on the story into public hands. In a report which takes pains to be fair, Popkey presents corroborating evidence of Craig’s sexual orientation and activities, gathered over a six-month period this year.
The public speculation on Craig’s sexuality started during the 1982 congressional page scandal, in which Craig proclaimed his innocence before he was really implicated. Then, last fall, when activist and blogger Mike Rogers reported, citing anonymous sources, that Craig had sex with men. That report, which was covered here and in several other places, rapidly spread across the Internet and prompted the Statesman’s investigation.
Craig called the allegations “laughable” and “ridiculous.”
That said, Rogers had sparked a new fervor in the Larry Craig story.
Popkey’s work on the story has been publicly acknowledged by Statesman editor Bill Manny and openly discussed by everyone except Popkey. Among reporters, it’s long been the go-to topic on a slow day, or when anything involving Craig’s votes in the Senate might be questioned. “Someone tell Popkey,” one of us would say, as if we all hadn’t hounded him to death about it already.
Among Republicans, attitudes about the issue have varied widely. A friend of mine recently told a Larry-Craig-is-gay joke to a group of Idaho House Republicans, and said his joke went over as if it had been a group of Democrats: with loud guffaws. Nobody objected; nobody seemed surprised.
Several Washington, D.C. contacts whom I’ve known for years have said Craig’s sexuality has long been a source of open secrets there as well.
The refusal of people to go on the record with these statements illustrates the same problem the Idaho Statesman has apparently had for years. NewWest.Net/Boise’s calls to many sources, old and new, have gone unreturned or the recipients will not speak officially. “Craig will have to get caught before the story can be told,” has been the line-du-jour for many journalists.
But now, because of an anonymous tip to Roll Call (staff writer John McArdle tells NewWest.Net only “we got a tip on it") about the Minneapolis incident, the Larry Craig story begins to unfold.
This, in the Reddest of Red States
The arrest and Craig’s guilty plea coupled with his denials are just the first shovels of dirt in a hole he’s digging. So far, it would seem that Idaho Republicans are not going in after him.
No one in the Idaho Republican party was immediately returning calls Monday and largely, Idaho’s political leaders weren’t even peeping about the news. All the chatter that last week was plentiful about Craig was silenced Monday.
At Tuesday’s press conference, well-known Republican staffers, including Brad Hoaglund, former press secretary to then-Gov. Jim Risch, shook their heads and walked away when asked for on-the-record comment.
But finally, Idaho Republican Party Chairman, J. Kirk Sullivan, issued the following statement:
“United States Senator Larry Craig has been a stalwart in supporting Idaho and ensuring that the needs of Idaho citizens have been well-represented at the highest levels of our nation’s government. Until the facts of this situation are made clear, I would encourage all Idahoans to avoid rushing to judgment and making brash statements about a man who has dedicated his life to public service.”
On the Internet, the word from some of Idaho’s top Republican bloggers is: This is the end of the line.
Right-wing Idaho blogger Adam Graham wrote: “Senator Larry Craig’s guilty plea in June of this year to a charge of lewd conduct should lead to the end of his Senate career. The honorable thing for Larry Craig to do is to resign.”
Another Idaho ultra-conservative, Clayton Cramer, wrote: “Senator Craig should go ahead and resign, and let Governor Otter name a replacement who can serve out Craig’s term with dignity and respect for the people of Idaho. (I’m available!)”
Cramer also cites the Minnesota Monitor’s story which points out squirt.org, a gay website, has directions to the men’s room in question and states that it’s a well-known site for soliciting gay sex.
A Senate Seat Up For Grabs?
Craig’s seat in the Senate has been regarded as safe—a Republican seat in a Republican state. But Craig’s debacle comes at an interesting time in Idaho politics.
Frustration with the Iraq war and the national mood opposing Bush in high numbers have never had much effect on Idaho. But the last Idaho election changed the core of the capital city of Boise from purple to blue, a Democratic mayor is set to be re-elected in November, and Idaho Democrats across the state have been gaining momentum.
For Democrats, the fodder in the speculation about Craig has always been about hypocrisy. As a member of Congress, Craig voted yes on a constitutional ban of same-sex marriage (June 2006) and on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996). He voted no on adding sexual orientation to the definition of hate crimes (Jun 2002) and on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation (Sep 1996).
The question of his sexual orientation was settled long ago for Democrats, who tend strongly to believe in where-there’s-smoke-there’s fire. Now, Craig has been convicted in a court of law for disorderly conduct in a bathroom known as a place for sex solicitation.
Idaho Democratic Party Chair, former Congressman Richard Stallings, issued this statement after Tuesday’s press conference: “This matter is between Larry Craig, his family, the police investigators and other people around the senator.”
“This is not a partisan battle. Therefore, The Idaho Democratic Party has nothing to add to the public conversation at this time.”
Another former Congressman, Democrat Larry LaRocco, has also been silent on the issue since the news broke. LaRocco has been at the forefront of the Democratic challenge to Craig, but certainly, Idaho Democrats will be looking to capitalize on this new chink in the Idaho Republican armor, whether it’s Craig running in ‘08 or not.
This question of whether Craig will resign is the real story on the ground in Idaho, and most of the off-the-record chatter is that Craig will eventually have to step down. In comment threads here and in letters to the Statesman readers, Idahoans and others are calling for Craig’s resignation.
But his denials have been so strong that it’s hard to tell if he would actually go through with a resignation, which would be, in the eyes of the public, an admission of guilt.
Craig said Tuesday he will make an announcement about running for reelection as planned, which he has said all along will be in September.
For Republicans, losing the seat would be deeply painful. Craig’s seniority and top committee assignments (ranking member on Appropriations Subcommittee on Interior and Related Agencies as well as on the Environment and Public Works Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health) have given them considerable power in Washington, and he’s knocked off two challengers easily.
If Craig does resign, Gov. Butch Otter will appoint a replacement. The list of possible appointees – the usual suspects – includes Lt. Gov. Jim Risch, Congressman Bill Sali, and Congressman Mike Simpson.
Craig’s fall will probably end a long political career which has been the touchstone of Republican power - which is almost complete – in Idaho. With that touchstone gone, there could be a sea-change in Idaho politics which has opportunities for both the right and the left. The fallout of the story, including the damage it may or may not do to the Republican stronghold here or in the West, is just in its infancy.
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I see no resignation after today's conference unless cooler heads prevail. Senator family values wants his day in Court. He'll have to fight the ethics probe as well. That assures headlines for a long time. It can only help Democrats.
Idaho is . . well, Idaho. It is still the most conservative state in the U.S. A Republican Idaho senator getting caught in an alleged sex sting will not cause the conservatives to abandon their core beliefs and values and jump ship.
Oh Look! There's one now! Thanks Marion, you made me laugh long and hard.
His press conference yesterday was more of a plea for his conservative friends not to devour his career than anything. It was painful watching him beg for someone to believe he wasn't gay. What was even more sad was that his staff and him believed he had to do that to save his reputation.
But they know their party too well. Already the family values police are circling like wolves. No wonder the GOP is inundated with hypocrisy, these guys have to be duplicitous, if they don't the wing nuts eat them alive.
The fact that you fail to see the connection is not surprising - you will never see soemthing that you are dogmatically determined to ignore - kind of like a flat-earther.
The connection between "[y]our beliefs" and Senator Craig's behavior is that it is now becoming VERY apparent that your beliefs (which are rooted in outdated and ignorant religious dogma) fail to account for genetic variation (fyi - genetic variation is that pesky recombination of dna that occurs when people have sex and renders some people gay, some people straight, and some people a little of both). In short, it appears that Senator Craig is biologically either gay or a little of both but your outdated and uniformed beliefs have forced him into the public restroom stalls of our nations cities to live the life he is genetically built to prusue.
Don't worry Marion, I know: gay is a lifestyle choice, climate change is a conspiracy, and the earth is indeed flat.
Do you see any connections now?
-ryanus
Butch Otter is America's Number One libertarian Governor, right up there with Sarah Palin of Alaska and Mark Sanford of SC.
No doubt whichever way he goes, he'll be appointing a libertarian Republican.
Replacing a boring-ass ho-hum conservative like Craig with a principled libertarian.
That my friends, is a very, very positive development to come out of this scandal.
Eric Dondero, CEO
MainstreamLibertarian.com
Do you realize that arguments can be made that Risch isn't a libertarian but more of a social liberal w/ an economic Conservative bent?
Do you understand that Sali is in no way a Libertarian?
I am afraid I do not see what my belief in God has to do with whatever got Craig into trouble, and especially what makes me responsible. As far as I am concerned I am responsible for my actions, he is responsible for his, and you are for yours. If I am right and I do have to answer to a God someday, I hope I have lived my life the way He would have me live it. If I am wrong, I have lived a good full happy life.
My concern with Craig has to do with the sleaze factor, that was responsible for the last election results. On the whole Republicans do not like sleaze in their party, and if they won't step aside will not vote for them. Dems applaud Studds, William Jefferson, etc.
You said:
"genetic variation is that pesky recombination of dna that occurs when people have sex and renders some people gay, some people straight, and some people a little of both."
This is quite the "blanket statement" regarding the cause of homosexuality.
There are no replicated scientific studies that prove homosexuality is determined by biological or genetic factors. Even respected GAY researchers don't dispute this.
Where do you get your facts/studies to prove your point Ryanus?
I know that I, and the rest of us, will be waiting quite awhile for an answer because there is not one single study on this planet to prove your intellectually lazy point.
Scia Ciantee
KnowThyFactsNotThyNeighbors.blogspot.com
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-gillespie29aug29,0,1699515.story?coll=la-opinion-center
The Republicans have made a drastic and stupid error by embracing all this culture war stuff, meddling in people's private business, sticking their tainted noses where they don't belong, flinging rocks to distract the nation from the perversions being enjoyed in their own glass houses.
As Gillespie writes, it is time to get the cops out of the bathrooms, and government out of the question of who sticks what, where, between consenting adult citizens.
If Craig and other Republicans had not been such weedy little sanctimonious sons-a-b*****, this would be a non-story.
Hal
Would it be O.K. if Sen. Craig was looking for drugs in the public bathroom at the airport? Lets paint a different canvas with your "What he does in bathrooms at airports is not important to me."
Would it be O.K. if Sisyphus, or yourself for that matter, and his/her or your child was subjected to drug dealing at the Minneapolis airport?
Come on!!!
Scia Ciantee
KnowThyFactsNotThyNeighbors.blogspot.com
I'm for liberty first, and as Donald Rumsfeld said of post-invasion Iraq, liberty is messy.
I will grant you this is as much, if not more, of a problem for the left rather than the right. They want to express indignant anger over the horrible thing he might have done, but if they do then they are going to offend the gays they have been pandering to. Talk about the horns of a dilemna, about all they can do is rant and blame it all on the religious right.
And each time is funnier than the last. Keep it up, Marion, you're a comedy genius!
Next time that ball comes in my yard, I'm going to keep it, you little rascals!
Where's my Matlock?
And I agree the hypocrisy does make this a story. Here's some more hypocrisy. Today Craig is stripped of his committee assignments as a consequence of the ethics investigation initiated by Republican leadership. Yet a few days ago when Vitter confesses to adulterous heterosexual sex with prostitutes in DC he has no ethics complaints, continues to sit on his committees, and is actually applauded by his Republican colleagues. http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/boise/archive.asp?postID=6064
Marion, not anger, but maybe frustration in our seemingly futile attempts to bring the light of knowledge to the very dark and narrow place caused by the cloak of ignorance you choose to surround yourself with. True to my name I embrace the challenge
You said:
"I would rather raise my children in a society where I have to teach them how to deal with possible deviants and drug dealers in a public restroom- and it would be great if there were no such people in there, yes-- than to raise them in a society where entrapment by law officers is the accepted norm,..."
I agree with your thought process that we need to teach our children how they should deal with a dangerous situation in a public arena, BUT your second stated "oppinion" that the law officer was "entrapping" Sen. Craig is quite spun and I am getting vertigo. There were many previous cases of homosexual behavior in the airport bathroom stalls and the police department decided to conduct a sting operation in the mens' room in order to stop the dangerous behaviors from continuing.
Should the law officers not of conducted this sting knowing it was going on? What if the officers knew drugs were being delt in the bathrooms, should they intervene and stop such transactions or should we leave it up to our parenting skills to teach our children what to do when they encounter such situations?
Scia Ciantee
KnowThyFactsNotThyNeighbors.blogspot.com
Your "gay" ram study, which has never been replicated in humans since its start in 2004, is another way for the radical homosexual community to justify their behaviors.
Do you and Ryanus have any replicated HUMAN scientific studies that prove homosexuality is determined by biological or genetic factors or are we to justify a human genetic disposition towards homosexuality by using sheep as our subjects?
Baaaaaaaaaaad use of science to spin a point.
Scia Ciantee
KnowThyFactsNotThyNeighbors.blogspot.com
Scia, thats a fowl! You have a 10 minute timeout.
Genetic biologists are capable of using genetic studies from most mammals and then use it to track human genetic behavior with far less bias than doing the studies on humans (due to our intelligence and ability to choose). In fact, genetic studies on rodents are very valuable to human genetics in multiple ways.
The discovery of a sexuality gene or sequence would be incredibly valuable, and while not proving outright that ALL homosexuality is genetic, would definitely be used to start new studies in human sexuality.
And would your homophobic highness please tell me what "radical homosexual community" means? I think I might be a little confused on the matter.
I agree that "under normal circumstances" what Larry Craig put where with whom is none of my business, but here is a guy who made it his political life to cast those types of moral judgments into law whenever possible. he led the charge for very similar conduct against Packwood and Clinton.
the cop was not looking to entrap - he was there in response to numerous complaints. There was no mistake here, Craig was cruzin'. "two minutes of staring through the crack in the stall making hand gestures...
And, Yes, i do want the police to patrol this type of deviant behavior. whatever two or three or more consenting adults do in PRIVATE, is for those involved to judge. But trolling public bathrooms leads to the infringement of my right to the expectation of reasonable safe and unencumbered freedom in a open and freely accessed public realm. if i want to get hit on by a man i will go to a gay bar - or propted by a female hooker, i will go to a strip club.
Craig is now trying to shoot the messenger(i.e. the Statesman's "Witch hunt") - a favorite republican tactic when the truth is too much to handle.
he also tried to throw his Senator weight around, "what do you think about that?"when he showed the arresting officer his ID card.
time for Larry to go away. Idaho deserves better.
I know that it is the repulsive hypocrisy involved here that is the most galling aspect of it all. And I recognize the public/private divide that was definitely breached (sp?) by the bathroom cruising. I'll readily concede that the cops have a responsibility to stop that kind of thing, and a misdemeanor disorderly conduct rap is a good, reasonable way to do that.
I am just tired of all the sanctimonious moralizing on every side.
Craig's actions toward Packwood and Clinton definitely make him fair game. Yes, indeed.
What I keep waiting for someone to point out, though, is that there may not be hypocrisy in Craig's votes on the anti-gay marriage and anti-hate crimes laws. Just because he goes looking for deviant and anonymous encounters in public restrooms does not mean he should vote some kind of gay rights agenda.
I guess I'm conceding the point, though. As the Marquis de Sade was supposed to have said, "Men are all weak and the pious are the weakest of them all, especially when you give them boys."
I got that from the comments section at the Washington Post.
Hal
gp in mt
Ditto on the sanctimonious moralizing - making it a gay thing or the so-called moral right - both making political hay over questionable judgment and behavior.
by the way great article from Gillespie.
the real tragedy.... the craig family and the fall-out from this. that's a lot of hurt.
Anyway, I see Simpson going Senatorial and an open run now for CD2. And Jim has a shot if we can convince him that it's okay to collect just $50 from folks, but he needs a whole lot of folks. A whole lot. I'm ready to write my check.
In mentioning the Oregon State research, I had no intention of justifying aberrant behavior. Research often starts with animals and, could at some future date, be applied to humans. Normal curiosity would lead one to ask the question: why would a person in Senator's Craig position risk everything in life for such a foolish moment if it wasn't gentically driven (and yes, possibly, learned behavior)? I have known of many homosexuals, who came from the identical "seed", of a familty of several children who all--but one-- were heterosexual. There is more to this issue than "meets your eye"!
You asked the most intelligent question in this thread:
"Normal curiosity would lead one to ask the question: why would a person in Senator's Craig position risk everything in life for such a foolish moment if it wasn't genetically driven (and yes, possibly, learned behavior)?"
There are no known HUMAN studies to indicate that homosexuality is either a genetic based OR learned behavior.
There are no credible peer reviewed studies that conclude that people are born gay. There are three ways to test for inborn traits: twin studies, brain dissections, and “gene” linkage studies. Since about half of the identical twins studies didn’t have the same sexual preference, twin studies demonstrate that something other than genetics must account for homosexuality. If as many claim, that homosexuality is inherited then identical twins should either be both straight or both gay (Dr. Jeffery Satinover, “The Gay Gene?” The Journal of Homosexuality).
Another study which attempted to demonstrate a link between homosexuality and the X-chromosome has yet to be replicated and a subsequent study actually contradicted the findings of the first (Dallas, Joe. A Strong Delusion: Confronting the “Gay Christian” Movement. Eugene, Ore: Harvest House,1996).
Even if homosexuality were found to be an “inborn” inherited trait, it would not necessarily mean that it would be “normal”. Some children are born with cystic fibrosis or spina bifida but that doesn’t make it a normal condition. Behaviors and inborn proclivities toward alcoholism, violence, obesity, and homosexuality are now thought to have some connection to genetics but are not good behaviors. There are a number of “normal” and “natural” predispositions that we are “born” with, but we as individuals also have the power to overcome these predispositions.
So, yes, I agree with your last statement, but would add "there is more to this issue than 'meets BOTH of our eyes".
Scia Ciantee
KnowThyFactsNotThyNeighbors.blogspot.com
Thanks for the civil response. Your points are noted. Maybe we do need "4 eyes".
The issue of the "cause" of homosexuality is a tricky one that still needs more study. Thanks for being open minded.
Where are you from MW? I am from MA, as is indicated on my website.
Scia Ciantee
KnowThyFactsNotThyNeighbors.blogspot.com
Methinks the Dems don't have much on the Repubs...its just that they don't support anti-gay legislation and then demonstrate conflicting behavior. I haven't done the count, but I think the Elephants are ahead at this point in the sex-scandel race, not to mention the mis-appropriation of funds issues. With congress' ratings at 18% or less, its time for us to ask, "Why did we vote for these creeps?" Its not "their" problem...its OURS!
I think that the American media is slanted to the left. The press is supposed to be impartial and report the story, not cheer when a good man stumbles.
He needs to resign ASAP so butch can get a good conservative to take his place.
This idea would probably be upsetting to fundamentalist republicans, but its still a free country- free speech, habeus corpus and all that (unless you are suspected of hating freedom- then you might disappear).
You said:
"There is indeed CLEAR evidence for significant differences in neuroanatomy between gay and straight individuals. For example there is a small nucleus of cells in the hypothalamus that is different in straight men and women; in gay men this region is more like that in straight women than straight men. This isn't controversial; its now even in introductory college neuroscience textbooks. This doesn't address the issue of whether the anatomical difference between gay and straight men has a genetic basis or not."
You may be refering to a 1991 study done by a Dr. Simon LeVay, a neuroscientist at the Salk Institute in La Jolla California. In this study, Dr. LeVay, who has admitted to being a homosexual, examined a specific region of the brain structure called the hypothalamus in deceased homosexual and heterosexual men (medical cadavers). LeVay purportedly discovered that this region was smaller in the brains of gay men, leading him to conclude that this difference might be responsible for the development of homosexuality. (Simon LeVay, "A Difference in the Hypothalamic Structure Between Heterosexual and Homosexual Men," Science 253 (1991): 1034-37).
In 1994 Dr. LeVay said:
"It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that homosexuality was genetic, or find a genetic cause for being "gay". I didn't show that "gay" men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work." (Simon LeVay, cited in David Nimmons, "Sex and the Brain," Discover 15, no. 3 (1994): 64-71).
In closing: what are your sources in this statement that you made?:
"exposure to varying sex hormone levels in utero can also affect brain development and later sexual orientation."
On the other hand, a convicted felon that has supposedly been missing for 15 years has been fund raising for Hillary and the Dems. Any outrage about that? Nope surely noone would think that was corruption at it's finest, jsut give it to charity when you get caught.
Another scary thing is that many chemicals in the ecosystem like PCBs have weak estrogenic effects and these things are now pervasive due to our use of them for many years. You can measure PCBs in human breast milk still today even though they aren't used anymore. Its theorized that these pollutants may be one of the causes of the dramatic and continual drop in average human sperm counts over the past five decades.
It looks like Craig is going to resign tomorrow. Lots of posters are lashing out at "libs". The point to be made is that the reason that Craig and the guys he picked up are furtively seeking sex in bathroom stalls is because they are ashamed/in the closet. If he and everyone else would accept that some people are gay, everybody could get on with their lives without all the hypocrisy and self-destructive behavior.
I am ecstatic that Jim Risch is on his way to Washington and pro amnesty Craig is under the bus.
You said:
"The point to be made is that the reason that Craig and the guys he picked up are furtively seeking sex in bathroom stalls is because they are ashamed/in the closet. If he and everyone else would accept that some people are gay, everybody could get on with their lives without all the hypocrisy and self-destructive behavior.
So, If we all accept homosexuals for who they are they will all of a sudden stop engaging in dangerous sexual acts?
Scia Ciantee
KnowThyFactsNotThyNeighbors.blogspot.com
"dangerous" eh? Is that a subjective, objective, or purely factual take on it?
Dangerous like terrorists, dangerous like sinners, dangerous like . ..all of the above? What do you mean?
ThyNeighborsKnowestNotThouFacts.com
When taking part in civil discourse it is appropriate to answer questions that others have presented to you before issuing questions of your own. You may very well have been busy and not have seen the question I proposed to you, so before I answer your question please answer mine first:
You said on 8/29/07:
"genetic variation is that pesky recombination of dna that occurs when people have sex and renders some people gay, some people straight, and some people a little of both."
I responded with:
This is quite the "blanket statement" regarding the cause of homosexuality.
There are no replicated scientific studies that prove homosexuality is determined by biological or genetic factors. Even respected GAY researchers don't dispute this.
Where do you get your facts/studies to prove your point Ryanus?
Thanks Ryanus. I look forward to seeing what you have to say.
Scia Ciantee
KnowThyFactsNotThyNeighbors.blogspot.com
The fact is that Hal was way, way, way, irreparably off target when he suggested that Craig "had a pretty respectable career" prior to this incident. The truth is that Larry Craig was, throughout his career, one of the most predatory, conniving, deceitful, sneaky villains to be found. With regard to conservation issues, which happen to be one of my primary interests, he was one of the worst legislators in American political history. The fact that he kept a low profile that hid a good part of his villainy from the mass public simply points to the same ability for hypocritical deceit that he used to hide his sexual activities. There are openly gay members of the House and Senate. I'll echo what others have said; for me, Craig's sexual preference is not the issue; for me, the issues have, for many years before this incident, been his hypocrisy on a full range of issues, his tremendous and long demonstrated capacity for deceit, and the fact that he spent a whole career cementing his legacy as a villainous puke on a whole host of topics and in a whole host of ways, none of which had anything to do, besides the continuity of his deceitfulness, with his long known sexual preference.
Where Craig and his ideological colleagues are concerned, I'd be saying good riddance to bad rubbish if they had twenty mistresses each. It's the hypocrisy, the deceit, and the ideological pus down in their souls that are the crimes.
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