Review
9/11 Conspiracy Documentary Fails To Convince
By Eric Mack, 12-02-05
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Taos has a reputation for leaning unabashedly to the left every now and then, so an event titled “Take Back America� in the midst of a Republican administration at a local gallery is hardly out of the ordinary. But some of the conclusions drawn by a feature film shown were much harder to swallow for anyone who plays even the slightest step to the right of far left field.
The main event of the evening was a documentary entitled "Loose Change" by young filmmaker Dylan Avery. Through more than an hour of rehashed news reports, articles, eyewitness accounts and slowed-down video clips, the film postulates that the events of September 11, 2001 were actually conceived and carried out by clandestine operatives acting on behalf of the U.S. government.
The film is clearly not an overnight project and much of the evidence presented is compelling, particularly a section that deals with the attack on the Pentagon. Avery points out that the hole left in the building is nowhere near the size or shape of the jet airliner that allegedly crashed into it, and photos of the site seem to show no wreckage from a jet. The film conjectures that it was more likely a cruise missile that hit the building, pointing to eyewitness accounts of two “planes� approaching the Pentagon, one small and fast-moving, the other similar to a large military aircraft like a C-130. Add to the mix the surveillance tapes from nearby businesses that were confiscated by the FBI and an eerie satellite photo taken before the attack that appears to show the path of the impact marked out in chalk across the Pentagon lawn and you have more than enough reason to get Oliver Stone on the phone.
What about the World Trade Center you ask? Avery gives us accounts that the first plane had military markings and looked “like no jet I’ve ever seen� according to one eyewitness. He adds the fact that no modern skyscrapers have ever collapsed from fire, in fact his evidence seems to indicate that a deliberate implosion took place. How? Well, slow down the video of the collapse and there does appear to be a serious of charges going off in the buildings as they fall. And there was that strange power outage a few weeks before that took all the security cameras off-line in the trade center to make it convenient for explosives to be installed without being detected. Creepy yes, but not quite a slam dunk.
But wait, what happened to the black boxes? An exhaustive look at the specs for the boxes seems to reveal there is no way seven out of eight of them should have been damaged in the collapse as the government claims, (The FBI has not released the contents of the eighth.) particularly since the paper passport of one of the alleged hijackers was found intact.
Speaking of those pesky hijackers, where are they now? Avery claims that almost half of them are in fact still alive and well and piloting commercial planes halfway around the world.
This is where things begin to fall apart for the theory and the film’s credibility in my mind, because if this is the case, it is certainly a veritable smoking gun. However, Avery presents absolutely nothing to substantiate the claim or even a terse explanation of how he came across the information. And if Avery is able to locate living hijackers, what then is his answer for the hundreds of people whose families are quite convinced they died aboard hijacked flights that were actually a military dummy plane or a cruise missile according to the film? If no jetliner crashed into the Pentagon, where are the passengers that were allegedly on that flight? That’s an awfully large number of co-conspirators.
Avery does present a wealth of important and overlooked reporting from that day. The evidence of some sort of cover-up is undeniable – something that can be expected from an administration possibly seeking to hide some of the more embarrassing aspects of the country’s worst catastrophe – but to assume that such efforts must certainly amount to an admission of involvement or ultimate responsibility is just too much of a leap, I hope.
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Comments
Did you even watch the film? BBC and MSNBC not good enough for you?
And which is it???
"Fails To Convince" or "some sort of cover-up is undeniable" ?
WAKE UP!!!!!!
You can watch loose change here: (each ~48 MB)
http://download.alciada.net/911/911-LooseChange1.wmv
http://download.alciada.net/911/911-LooseChange2.wmv
Also check out what FOX News (left wing? I don't think so) had to say about the upcoming Loose Change 2:
http://download.alciada.net/911/fox_lc2e.mpg (40mb)
Huh? CO-CONSPIRATORS??? How does one equal the other? I can think of THOUSANDS of possible scenarios. Use your brain,man...You forget it is many of the family members of those killed that are attemtpting to push this info into the mainstream. You failed to mention that. Here is a great news story on the subject:
http://enigs.xmule.ws/fox_lc2e.mpg
Do the research for yourself:
http://www.911proof.com
911 For Very Busy People
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/
http://www.911research.com/
Do you know where I could find links to those BBC and MSNBC stories?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1558669.stm
Here's a link to an MSNBC article in which Mohommed Atta's father claimed that his son called him the day after the attack:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5961724/
Keep in mind that there is more to the story of 9/11 than what your news media has told you. Many crimes have been committed as well. Check out:
http://www.reopen911.org
http://www.loosechange911.com (Dylan's website)
http://69.28.73.17/911ontrial.doc/911ontrialindex.html (9-11 On Trial, a book that focuses on the collapse of the Twin Towers and building #7)
http://www.911inplanesite.com
It's good to see you are very open-minded.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
Quote:
"FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt."
http://web.archive.org/web/20040727040140/http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_suspects.html
Notice how some of the individuals came forward and said, "I didn't do it!"
http://911review.org/Wget/members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm
*Note: some of the links are dead as those pages may have been removed by the mainstream network that initially provided the article. However, you should be able to copy the link location, go to archive.org, and paste the link location into the search bar. The Wayback Machine should be able to show you what that article containted (click the last updated version of it though). Please keep in mind that some news sources put web bots on their sites that blocks archive.org from archiving their web pages.
I'm convinced as is Louis Freeh, the previous FBI director, along with Congressman Weldon that the 9/11 investigation was a joke.
Philip Zelikoff, who managed what got investigated, referred to dismissing alternative theories as "whacking moles."
There is so much wrong with the 9/11 investigation that I'm convinced something is being covered up.
But then, our government wouldn't kill people and lie to us to forward their own agenda and enrich themselves.
http://towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/680/
An Interview with 9/11 Truth Activist Carol Brouillet
Written by Bob Feldman
Monday, 28 November 2005
A co-founder of both the International Media Project, Making Contact alternative media group and the Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance, Carol Brouillet is one of the most energetic, creative and politically productive West Coast-based anti-war activists.
Toward Freedom: Since October 2001, you've been organizing weekly "Listening For Peace" anti-war protests in Downtown Palo Alto, California. In what various ways have people in Palo Alto responded to your weekly "Listening For Peace" actions during the last four years?
Carol Brouillet: In the wake of the passage of the PATRIOT Act, I thought it was important to exercise our First Amendment Rights, before they were gone, forever. I was inspired by a woman from Colombia who did a "Listening Project" there to defuse violence. I set up tables, chairs, banners, have free food, free literature, and educational materials on the tables. But mainly I try to get people to respond to 3 questions which haven't changed in 4 years: "What do you think/feel about the events of September 11th and the U.S. government's response? How could we defuse terrorism? How could we create a safer/better world for our children and all children?" I write down their responses, and usually by the time they have answered those questions, I have some idea of how receptive they will be to the information, ideas that I would like to share with them. Sometimes people come to help me, as listeners, or just to engage in discussions with people attracted to the table. Sometimes, I launch rallies or marches from my spot in Lytton Plaza. I do recruit volunteers who have helped me immeasurably to table at anti-war rallies, organize other events. Just to create a weekly time and place for serious discussion on the political issues that we find most important, I believe is my own idea of "public service."
Responses vary dramatically from the rare obscenities shouted by a passing SUV to intense, powerful hour-long conversations from which lasting friendships have been born. A friend would like to write a book, chronicling the notebooks filled with the varied responses to the questions. Some people have no clue as to what is happening and what they could do. Some people are very well informed and have brilliant ideas about solving the problems we face. Generally responses depend on where people are getting their information from; I do feel we are on the cusp of a media revolution, as the corporate press is rapidly losing whatever credibility it once had.
It is very noticeable how consciousness has risen over the past four years and I do feel my work is very much appreciated by the public, in general. At the last big anti-war rally, there were so many volunteers, that I was able to take a microphone and banner and actually participate in the whole march, while six or seven people minded the table. Now, the donations go into the Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance account, the group meets twice a month and democratically votes on where to put our time, energy and resources; there is a 9-11 Truth community and I am glad to be a part of it.
TF: You wrote in a March 6, 2005 article that "only in 1992, after seeing the film JFK, did I begin to wake up, began researching the CIA, and became an activist." What did you discover by researching the CIA and do you think U.S. anti-war movement activists should be demanding that the CIA be abolished?
CB: I discovered Chomsky and Peter Dale Scott's work. Between terrorizing Third World countries and installing brutal military dictators and trafficking in drugs; it is fairly clear that the CIA is basically a ruthless criminal organization and deserves to be abolished. At least, there is an effort to shut down the School of the Americas. Frank Dorrell's Addicted to War comic book is the best tool we have to unmask the CIA and the US's dependence on a "War Economy."
TF: You also wrote that "for years I focused on `the global economy,' changing the monetary system, challenging the IMF, the World Bank, the WTO." Do you think there are any lessons for U.S. anti-war activists from the pre-September 11, 2001 street protests against the IMF, the World Bank and the WTO?
CB: I believe that 9-11 was, in many ways, a reaction to the success of the Global Justice Movement. 9-11 was an act of fear by a global elite who saw themselves losing power, who decided to use "terror" and "war" to maintain their power and frighten or silence dissent by re-labeling those opposed to government or corporate policies, "terrorists." Awful as the PATRIOT Act was, it was mirrored in the UK, Canada, countries throughout the world. Homeland Security, "the surveillance/security industry" is booming, mainly outside the US. The corruption, hypocrisy, Orwellian language is more flagrant than ever. But more people than ever are seeing through it and organizing opposition to it.
TF: In your March 6, 2005 article, you wrote that "those of us in the 9-11 Truth Movement hope that by exposing the truth about -9-11, we can end the `War Game,' once and for all." What led you to conclude that the Bush Administration's initial account of what actually happened on September 1, 2001 was false and how did anti-war activists go about creating the 9-11 Truth Movement?
CB: A friend of mine, Dave Ratcliffe, wrote a book called "UNDERSTANDING SPECIAL OPERATIONS And Their Impact on The Vietnam War Era:1989 Interview with L. Fletcher Prouty." In the film, JFK, Prouty "Mr. X" was played by Donald Sutherland and he patiently explained to the investigating attorney, Jim Garrison, how he thought the assassination of JFK bore all the "fingerprints" of a special operation. The same "fingerprints"- violation of standard operating procedures, the stand-down of the defenses of the US military, the quick cover story, the destruction of evidence and the cover-up, all point to the whole thing being a "black op." After receiving many emails, especially the ones by Michel Chossudovsky which viewed Al Qaeda as a CIA asset, and doing research on my own, listening to Michael Ruppert, it seems the most logical, feasible explanation of what happened.
The 9-11 Truth movement was born in many minds, in many places, but most visibly manifested on the internet. The march I organized on Senator Feinstein's office demanding a Congressional Investigation of 9-11, got some press coverage, and my indymedia article got a lot of attention; I began getting hundreds of emails a day on 9-11. Radio-journalists, Barrie Zwicker, who had done the first televised challenges to the official narrative (aside from Alex Jones who predicted it and tried to prevent it)--We all began to communicate with one another via phone calls, and to link our sites.
The "Deception Dollar" was the best tool we came up with for public outreach and to promote the best 9-11 websites, and to fund the webmasters and research. There was very strong, clear sense of shared purpose amongst the 9-11 truth activists, a spirit of cooperation and community; there was a healthy sense of competition, people wanted to be able to contribute pieces to the incredibly complex puzzle that we were trying to put together.
The media censorship was so extreme. People were being terrified by the press. Politicians continually tried to scare us by guaranteeing another horrific attack. Research was being done all over the world; there were several areas of great disagreement and controversy, but most researchers agreed that "9-11 was an inside job." Nicholas Levis organized the first major 9-11 conference in Berlin. I organized the San Francisco International Inquiry into 9-11 in San Francisco. Barrie Zwicker and Ian Woods organized the Toronto Inquiry, they all helped bring people together, face to face, nurture cooperative relationships, build a movement in a very organic way.
TF: You also noted that "last year we organized the San Francisco International Inquiry into 9-11 Phase One." What was this event like?
CB: For three days we met at the San Francisco War Memorial Building, which holds the historic Herbst Theater, a beautiful theater that holds over 900 people, where the charter to the UN was signed. On the second floor there are numerable meeting rooms which we also had for dialogue, discussion, tabling, socializing, and we also made "studios" for the numerable documentary film-makers to interview people and hold panel discussions. We had over 150 registered participants, as well as over 750 daily event passes purchased by the public to view the main presentations and join in the parts of the Inquiry that were designated "open to the public." There were also about 30 members of the press. So much was happening simultaneously, that no one person had the same experience as anyone else. But we did create the space for public dialogue and examination of the key 9-11 issues, and a forum to challenge the "Official Cover-Up Commission" before they issued their final report. We did get some press coverage and forced a response from the White House that was very lame, indeed.
What was really great was for people, who had only known each other via e-mail or phone, to actually meet in person. I think all of us felt that we were doing something historic by coming together and publicly challenging the official story the way that we did. There were a number of 9-11 books in existence at that time; David Ray Griffin's book had just been published, but others- Paul Thompson's book- The Terror Timeline, Michael Ruppert's- Crossing the Rubicon, Webster Tarpley's- 9-11 Synthetic Terror- Made in the USA were yet to be published. Webster actually met his publisher at the Inquiry, so the whole thing bore a lot of fruit.
TF: You wrote in your March 6, 2005 article that "we also struggled to challenge the official Cover-Up Commission and their flawed recommendations, which would expand the `National Security State' into a `Global Security State' and give even greater power to the architects of 9-11." In what ways do you think the U.S. government's 9-11 Commission apparently acted as a "Cover-Up Commission," in a way that was similar to how the Warren Commission apparently acted as a cover-up commission following the JFK assassination?
CB: Joyce Lynn spoke at length on who the Commissioners were and what their conflict of interests were. At least the Warren Commission did publish enough information that researchers could find the blatant contradictions between the evidence and the conclusions. The official Commission continually refers to classified documents that no one has access to, so it conceals far more than it illuminates. Also the parameters of the Commission was basically to substantiate the "official version of events and conclusions" without really challenging them. Whenever a "Commission or Inquiry" is run or directed by those who should be investigated, a serious cover-up is taking place.
TF: Following the 2004 election, you also wrote that "the blatantly stolen election evoked great outrage, and, at the same time, discouraged people, who had worked to re-defeat Bush and felt doubly betrayed." Do you think U.S. anti-war activists will be able to prevent the GOP from stealing the 2006 Congressional elections or again stealing a U.S. presidential election in 2008?
CB: It depends on how outraged and organized we are. I was impressed by Cynthia McKinney's "Get out the Vote" speech prior to thr 2004 election when she said that if people hadn't mobilized to defeat Bush in 2000 that they wouldn't have found out that the election was stolen. More people have to really learn how democracy has been stolen from us, and to challenge the criminals who have illegitimately seized power. We need to make our voices heard and create or have some control over the means of communication to seriously challenge our "proclaimed leaders."
TF: In your March 6, 2005 article, you wrote: "The United for Peace and Justice National Conference drew 500 activists from across the country to vote on proposals, strategy, and direction for the movement. 9-11 truth activists tried to pass a proposal which would expand the goals of the peace and justice movement to include the truth about 9-11; while winning on round one, the vote was delayed until the last day of the conference, when fewer people were around, and the proposal was defeated." Are the United for Peace and Justice leaders still against expanding the goals of the peace and justice movement to include the truth about 9-11?
CB: In general the anti-war, peace leaders have been resistant or frightened of the 9-11 issue. I think they don't want to "scare" people away from the movement by letting them know how bad our "government" actually is, so they don't even try to shatter the biggest lies, but focus on smaller facets where they might have "some affect" but don't seriously threaten the system.
TF: Given the U.S. government's past history of covering-up what actually happened in
the Gulf of Tonkin prior to its Vietnam War escalation in 1965, why would the United For Peace and Justice leaders be against exposing the full truth about 9-11?
CB: With the media, we wonder sometimes whether they are "assets" or "assholes". With the leaders in the Peace Movement, we also wonder that, but I think it is mainly fear, and they do track public opinion and fear losing all their "credibility if they say anything that seriously challenges a majority of the American people's worldview.
TF: A few years ago you began distributing "Deception Dollars" to people around the globe. What kind of response have you received from your "Deception Dollars" project over the last few years?
CB: We printed 1,500,000 last December, so there are now over 5,500,000 in circulation and over 6,000,000 in print. People love them. I've sent over 100,000 to the UK. They have been photographed by Reuters and AP, and listed as some of the most emailed photos. They are fun to give away and it is the easiest act of activism- to just pass out a flyer. One woman wanted to give Bush 87 billion "Deception Dollars", rather than US dollars to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan. We made a special Billion Dollar note for her (the most ecological option) which she passed on to her Congressman- Jim McDermott. He made a poster of the bill and presented it on the floor of Congress along with a speech against giving Bush the 87 billion which he had asked for. The "Deception Dollars" have inspired all sorts of art projects and have been featured in short films. The donations that we have received from them have helped to finance the movement, and our events. They have also been added to the collections of four museums in four countries- the US, Canada, Cuba and Spain. They have inspired a cottage industry in Cuba, where a woman varnishes them onto a piece of wood and sells them for $5.
TF: Now that the majority of people in the U.S. are against the war in Iraq and many more people than previously seem to be questioning the truth of the U.S. government's official version of what happened on September 11, 2001, what do you think can be done in 2006 to finally bring peace and justice to the United States and the rest of the world?
CB: John Leonard, publisher of The War on Freedom by Nafeez Ahmed and 9-11 Synthetic Terror- Made in the USA by Webster Tarpley, recently came up with an idea for a Global Peace Week, beginning on Guy Fawkes Day (November 5th) and concluding with Veteran's Day November (11th). November 5th also happens to be Barrie Zwicker's birthday, and this year the 400th Anniversary of the day Fawkes was caught trying to blow up the British Parliament Building. Barrie wrote an Op-Ed piece about it that should be published this year, this weekend. Fawkes was one of the first "patsys" set up to take the blame for an incident, incited by powers that wished to provoke a war between Britain and Spain. We hope that, if we can educate people about the true history of war, the fabricated incidents that have been used for centuries, including Pearl Harbour, Gulf of Tonkin, the babies thrown out of the incubator story used to sell the first Gulf War, and 9-11, that they will refuse to participate in or support wars which serve the few and harm the vast majority of us and the world. My hope is that we will be able to raise consciousness as soon as possible to rein in the real terrorists. I hope that in January there will be a number of Congressional Candidates from Green or other parties challenging both Democrats and Republicans on 9-11, the phony war on terrorism, the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, challenging the reigning military paradigm and showing how false it is. I think there is hope and that truth, peace and justice will prevail, though what route we have to take, I cannot foresee. I think we all have to be louder, show more courage, use humor, truth, art, music, all our wit and wisdom to win over public opinion and erode any support that they have. When everyone realizes the "truth," these guys won't find anyone to "serve them breakfast," let alone invade more countries. Then we will finally be able to redirect resources away from those who seek to kill and control people to mending, healing relationships, lives, and remediation for the severely damaged ecosystems upon which so much life depends.
Note: If you check out Brouillet's website at http://www.communitycurrency.org, you'll find that her blog provides great updates on what's going on in the world of grassroots U.S. anti-war and 9-11 Truth activism.
Bob Feldman is an East Coast-based U.S. anti-war Movement writer-activist.
The plane that hit the pentagon and then vaporized is another miraculous anomoly.
Where is the plane that hit the pentagon?
Why did WTC7 fall when it was hit by nothing?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
WHO DID 911 ???
Joint Chiefs of Staff, mate.
only they have the means....
to cover it up, EVER AFTER.
Henry Shelton --> Firing squad...
Sky Scrapers don't turn to DUST without the massive energy of EXPLOSIVES! Dozens of people can be watched describing those EXPLOSIONS! http://www.911blogger.com (click on the video section on the top) Building 7 collapsed FASTER than the speed of gravity! (you need a vacume of air for that to happen) vacume = implosion!
WAKE UP! It's not about ENOUGH evidence! It's about YOUR FEAR of what the REAL truth will mean to you and your version of America and it's so called LEADERS!
F E A R = C O N T R O L
There are oner 100 lies and ommisions in that white wash they call the '9/11 report'.
David Ray Griffin is a hero, Paul Thompson is a hero, Mike Ruppert is a hero, Jimmy Walter is a Hero, Dylan Avery and Phil Jayhan are heros, The Killtown website is chalk full of painstakenly wonderful research...Dave Von Kleist is a hero. Willam Rodgriguez WAS A HERO 'AT' 9/11 !!!(and too many more to mention here)..ect. The list grows everyday of Americans who have shed their fear, and who REFUSE to let the inmates run this poor tired asylum of a country any further into the ground.
This movement is no longer a tiny snowflake, it is now a nice sized snowball, picking up steam and headed strait down the mountain towards WASHINTON D.C.
When will the rest of you shed your fear? because when it comes down to brass tax... it's all about Y O U R fear! Your fear of change, and the unknown.
We the people of the 9/11 truth movement, in order to regain control of OUR country, will not STOP, will not REST, untill The REAL TRUTH, rings in the ears of every American.
Scott Ledger
Proud Memeber of the movement that will give America back to it's people.
The bogus question is "what happened to the jet" - Flight 93 was reported to have landed by a local TV station.
What David Ray Griffin points out is that rather than disprove these open questions, the 9/11 commission, staffed by washington insiders, simply ignored them.
Think about the investigation when the shuttle disintegrated. 50 million dollars, people walking in 5 states picking up small pieces.
Bush (a) didn't want an investigation (b) after being shamed by widows of the 9/11 victims, appointed Henry Kissinger to Head the investigation (c) initially allocated 3 million dollars for the investigation.
Looks like dog shit, smells like dog shit, tastes like dog shit . . . . good thing you don't step in it. (cheech and chong)
TVNL Editor's Comments: Today(11-22-05) is the anniversary of the murder of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. President Kennedy's murder stands as an example of how a coup can take place in America, how a conspiracy to conduct a coup can work and how successful the cover up can be.
For those of you who do not think that the Bush/PNAC administration could have conducted a coup by rigging elections and you do not think an atrocity like 9/11 could contain the fingerprints of insiders, read your history books. Today is the anniversary of the prime example of the fact that conspiracies and cover-ups take place in America, even if it means killing Americans. Never forget that! Think about it! - Jesse, Editor, TvNewsLIES.org
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The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie (completely discredits & dismantles OUR Govt 9-11 story...pw)
by Dr. David Ray Griffin
Sunday, May 22, 2005
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404
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Former Bush Team Member Says WTC Collapse Likely A Controlled Demolition And 'Inside Job'
By Greg Szymanski
http://www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com/articles/article/1518131/27302.htm
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Former Asst. Sec. Of Treasury Under Reagan Doubts Official 9/11 Story; Claims Neo Con Agenda Is As 'Insane As Hitler And Nazi Party When They Invaded Russia In Dead Of Winter'
By Greg Szymanski
http://www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com/page/page/1518131.htm
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FBI Claims 84 Videos
Show NO Flight 77 Impact
By Jon Carlson
10-8-5
http://www.rense.com/general67/fbicl.html
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Steven E. Jones, Brigham Young Physics Professor, Thinks Bombs, Not Planes, Toppled WTC
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
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9/11, Iraq & PNAC - The Connection is Clear & Undeniable
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=181
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9-11 Bottom Line: Explosives in the WTC
by Victor Thorn
http://www.wingtv.net/911bottomline.html
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A Personal Decision
By Kevin Ryan
June 9th 2005
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050611100454443
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TvNewsLIES Challenges Believers of the Official Version of 9/11:
Where the Hell Is YOUR Proof?
"In the late 1990’s members of the Project for a New American Century wrote a treatise in which they foresaw a strategic “transformation� of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination that would require a huge increase in defense spending. “The process of transformation,� the plan said, “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.� The members of this group, known as PNAC, were appointed to many high level positions in the new Bush administration. Only months after they came to power, the United States experienced a new Pearl Harbor. That has never been publicized or explained as anything other than mere coincidence...."
http://tvnewslies.org/html/where_the_hell_is_your_9_11_pr.html
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There are many great websites that prove the Bush adminstration PLANNED
ORCHESTRATED 9-11...heres a few of them...peace,pw
http://www.reopen911.org/
http://www.911blogger.com
http://www.geocities.com/killtown/
http://www.StandDown.net/
http://www.911truth.org
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911links.html
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With each passig day more and more American citizens
are learning the truth about 9-11.
And the truth is that the Bush adminstration Planned and Orchestrated 9-11
and i'm here to offer you the proof for free.
send me your mailing address and i will send you the DVD
"CONFRONTING THE EVIDENCE"
or you can order it here https://secure.reopen911.org/freedvd.php
peace,pw
Because we're about to hit the wall with our oil consumption.
Google "peak oil".
Kuwait just announced its second largest oil field is running dry. There have been no discoveries of mega oil fields in the last quarter century. Saudis' biggest oil field is begging to produce almost 50% salt water.
Guess where the last mega oil field on the planet earth is . . . hmmmmmm Iraq?
Do your research. Don't try to pluck this thing like a chicken. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions. The TVNewsLies links above are excellent.
one of then show a Boeing 757 attcking it
according to the FBI (story above).
Eric, why did you say skyscrapers, when in fact
never in the History of "steeled framed" buildings has one ever collasped do to fire before and after 9-11 but amazingly 3 did on 9-11-2001.
What the hell happened to NORAD on 9-11?
Gen.Myers, acting joint chief of staff on 9-11,
did not order intrceptors up until the Pentagon was attacked at 9:40 am...8:46 1st attack WTC...9;02 2nd attack wtc....we knew supposed AA#11 was highjacked at 8:13 am...and Gen Myers did not send up interceptors until after 9:40 LOL LOL can you say StandDown!...
peace,pw
Do you still believe 9/11 was a terrorist attack where 19 Arab fundamentalists on orders from laptops in caves on the other side of the world outsmarted our trillion dollar defense and intelligence network? Doesn’t that sound like an outrageous conspiracy theory? Have you heard the alternate conspiracy theory: the one where radical elements in the U.S. government wanted a transformation of foreign policy and increased military spending, and in order to do so, they would need a “New Pearl Harbor“ to galvanize the masses to a war agenda.(1) To ensure such an event, these individuals actually plotted and carried out such an attack (9/11) and killed 2,749 Americans. The question is which story better explains the facts surrounding the day of the attacks?
It is now clear the official explanation of the attacks on 9/11, the 9/11 Commission Report, is a carefully constructed lie to cover up the truth of the real origins of what took place on that horrible day .This is seen through the painstaking analytical refutation of the official story by professor David Ray Griffin in his book: The 9/11 Commission Report, Omissions and Distortions. (2) To use the words of Kevin Ryan, whistleblower from Underwriter Laboratories, the company which certified the steel in the WTC, “Anyone who honestly looks at the evidence has difficulty finding anything in the official story of 9/11 that is believable. It’s not one or two strange twists or holes in the story, the whole thing is bogus from start to end.�(3)
If 9/11 was not a surprise terrorist attack, then who did it and why? The evidence is strongly pointing to rogue elements in the Bush/Cheney administration, primarily individuals associated with the NeoCon think tank, the P.N.A.C (Project For A New American Century: the authors wanting another Pearl Harbor), private military contractors and corporations, in addition to a few foreign governments and their intelligence networks. Author Webster Tarpley, in 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in the U.S.A (4). goes into great detail about the intricacies of these operations best described as “False Flag Terrorism.� In other words, make it look like the people you want to attack or invade (Arabs) attacked us first.
Quite simply, the alleged Al Qaeda “terrorists� did not have the operational capability for such a spectacular attack, and further these “terrorists� were actually coddled intelligence assets with no real ties to the actual operation of 9/11, which was carried out by “black operatives� in the U.S. military (5) .The U.S. Military? That’s right! Ever heard of Operation Northwoods. (6) Did you know that 9/11 was actually drilled a dozen times? That on the day of 9/11 itself, there were a combination of war games (7) and Terror drills, (8) only this time it went “live�. Did you know that explosives brought down the Twin Trade towers? (9) Or how about the fact that two of the flights 11 and 77 did not exist on that day, that there is evidence that flights 175 and 93 were not destroyed on that day? (10)
I cannot think of a direr crisis in our Republic and for the future of humanity as a whole than a false flag terror attack on Americans plotted and carried out by elements in our own government for political expedience and corporate enrichment - not to mention the groundwork laid for the next world war. These killers and enablers in our government and military apparatus must be brought to justice at once. 9/11 was immensely successful in rallying the masses to a war agenda which has redistributed billions of dollars towards projects not in the interests of a humane Democracy - Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, two wars of aggression, the Patriot Act and a clearly fraudulent election - These crimes deserve a 21st century “Nuremburg Trial� There are no other political concerns. 9/11 truth must be made known. If we don’t win this battle …..it is all over, for all of us……
Greg Nixon
1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
2.http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8765.htm
3. http://www.globaloutlook.ca/10FW.htm
4. http://www.tarpley.net/welcome.html
5. http://team8plus.org/
6. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html
7. http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=387
8. http://team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.16
9. http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/wtc7.html
10. http://www.911closeup.com/
150 “smoking Guns� for 9/11 Government Complicity
http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
For extensive analysis of private military contractors preparing for 9/11:
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=55
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/05/289643.shtml
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=436
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1073
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1074
Last night I watched Loose Change again and spent hours looking at most of the websites that everyone has suggested.
I still think there are numerous problems with the film and Avery's version of events. However, as I wrote in the review, Avery and all of you bring up a lot of very important and disturbing information that needs much more attention.
I have no idea what the hell happened that day and I'm not sure we ever will, but I plan to continue reporting on the fact that this information is out there.
we will probabally never know every detail of
9-11, you just have to let yourself go, for me
shortly after 9-11, in a months time i threw up twice at my commputer when i realized that the Bush/PNAC adm. planned and orchestrated 9-11..
Its not the first time in history that a Tribe/Country Leaders "faked" an attack and blamed it on others
i suggest you read this article(below), its in my top 20 of the 1000's that i read and printed
Eric, its yours an my Job to make sure with each passing day that more and more people know the truth of 9-11,
you know the truth already Eric, its what you do with it that makes the difference....and no i did not waste my ink on your article...mabey the next one or mabey your a "true believer"(below)
peace,pw
TvNewsLIES Challenges Believers of the Official Version of 9/11:
Where the Hell Is YOUR Proof?
"In the late 1990’s members of the Project for a New American Century wrote a treatise in which they foresaw a strategic “transformation� of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination that would require a huge increase in defense spending. “The process of transformation,� the plan said, “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.� The members of this group, known as PNAC, were appointed to many high level positions in the new Bush administration. Only months after they came to power, the United States experienced a new Pearl Harbor. That has never been publicized or explained as anything other than mere coincidence...."
http://tvnewslies.org/html/where_the_hell_is_your_9_11_pr.html
Covering up a major crime such as 9/11 indicates guilt, at least to some degree. Even if it was a LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose), that is still high treason.
There are plenty of cruel people in this country and in this world. We look all around the world and see corrupt politicians and staged terror attacks from Government front groups (remember Russia? Czars created a secret police force which in turn formed front groups posing as terrorists...) posing as rebels, then we look at ourselves and say, "But we're America! It can't happen to us!"
Problem: It has happened to us. If something happens all over the world, that doesn't mean were immune to such problems. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The greatest weakness of our Governmental system is the fact that if at least one elite society group grows large enough or networks with other elitist groups long enough, they can get their "man" or "woman" into many places of power. This includes the House of Representatives, the Senate, and of course the President.
I understand that you find this film hard to believe. I was in your shoes once. I found such information hard to believe when I first encountered it. Then I saw more and more information. I realized that 9/11 was an act of treason in which multiple crimes were committed.
http://www.project911recall.com/about.html
Visit Project 9/11 Recall today and check out the list of researchers' websites that I have listed.
The important question to ask yourself is, "Does the truth matter?"
Also, feel free to drop me a line:
Qoute "(1) start rumors (many) clandestine radio.
(2) land friendly Cubans in uniform "over-the-fence" to stage an attack on base.(guantanamo)
(3) Capture Cuban (friendly) saboteure inside the base
(4) Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans)
(5) Blow up ammunition inside the base; start fires
(6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).
(7) Lob mortar shells from outside of base into base, some damage to installations.
(8) Capture assualt teams approaching from the sea or vicinity of guantanamo City.
(9) capture militia group which storms the base.
(10) Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires --napthalene.
(11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conuct funerals for mock-victims (may be lieu of (10))."
Then it goes on to say that a Mock TERROR campaign would be formed and attack cuban refugees enroute to florida "(real or simulated)"
this in my mind proves without a shadow of a doubt that the Government would and could stage a attack the magnitude of sept. 11th and would have no remorse
I would like to present something that some people may not be aware of.
The Victor Thorn Article on me at the world trade center is false. No scuh conversation ever took place. The fact that these people were there at the memorial disrespecting not only the ceremony but the people as well IE cursing and insulting people who asked them to show some damn respect at the site was the prerequisate for victor and lisa false story about me standing the making statement about the NYPD and FDNY knowing that 9-11 was an inside job. Then after doing an Bait and switch interview with Mr Dylan Avery AKA Enigs Renigs and recieving Victor and lisa telephone number. I then made the call the their home and requested that they remove the article which then lead to the second article of retaliation about calling my home and makingh up statements for defamation.
Mr Dylan Avery and thomas Holbrook had conversation about the story being false and even Dylan concured.
But dylan didn't abide by his word and placed my image without my permission.
They are spooks looking to implant themselves in the movement.
GOD BLESS
Paul Isaac Jr
This seems to be very prevelant in the movement now.
We understand operational cost but why not have legitamacy and put on public access so that everyone can know the truth for free.
I introduced HEAVY circumstantial evidence to just about everyone and yet there is no mention of it anywhere.
I wonder why?
If anyone wants to see it, you can have it for free.
JUSTICE NOT PROFIT
Paul Isaac Jr
Blowing up airplanes, sinking own ships, doing terrorist acts against the own population is no new idea, that was proposed nearly 50 years ago to blame Cuba and cause a war.
"In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba� was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,� including “sink[ing] a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),� faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine� incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.�
National Security Archive: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
Just posted a very controversial message that wasn't posted.
The movements a racket ladies and gentelmen.
There is eveidence of it all over the inter-net.
Paul Isaac Jr
Thats the American Dream now?
Then we wonder why everyone on the planet hates americans now...
I like how dylan avery sends out death threats but then like a little girl has to dragg other people into it to show how much of a P#ssy he is.
God dammit, you know where I live come through and see what you get,stupid.
By you incriminating yourself on interstate weapons distribution and bragging about testing explosives Homeland Security is now onto you. now you want to go get your gun and come after me?
You are stupid.
Have a nice Day
Paul Isaac Jr
FDNY Auxiliary Fire Corps (NYCD)
Former NYPD Auxiliary Police Officer#12017 Reg#438136
FEMA Emergency Program Management FWD SIGINT
You said you have some evidence. Maybe compile it on a website, together with your story about the article you are referring to?
Would be much more productive than throwing out insults on an anonymous message board like this...
This act in itself is grounds for a beatdown. I can say this as I'm not with any city agency. Take it from a New Yorker, You will respect ground zero or you will get your asses kicked.
This goes out to those who know who they are.
There are alot of people upset about this incident.
If you want proof google in "the Village Voice Auxiliary Fireman" and see for yourself how these people prey on the greivence of the unsuspecting public. This is the real danger for the movement.
These people are creating the resentment.
Lisa Guliani is a narc, Google in "Lisa Guliani calls the FBI on revere radio network" to see the crap thats infiltrating the movement. Then there are those who claim poverty but go for the game. Where do the profits go?
Then we get the death wishes and threats, Let me tell you homie this is the land of killer cops and cop killers GOD bles Det Dillan Stewart recentley lost in the warzone of Bklyn, You'll not be forgotten and the Sgt from the NY fighting 69th who was shot recentley heroically breaking up a gang fight, he didn't know he was shot in the neck and was rushed to kings county hospital, he is recovering.
So if your coming here be sure you know the consequences of scewing around on streets you don't know homie.
Get your mind right cause the streets are definately on smash and they're calling for you.
No more games.
You want evidence?
God bless the mess
Paul Isaac Jr
(My E-mail)
It was funny when she tried to scare me by trying to incite Tim White with his litter "lets get ted gunderson or the former football guy to try and scare me" That was funny. I'm not scared of if any man or woamn on the planet just GOD almighty and if thats not enough on my word I'll gladly send out my service record to any credible media source so you can see how I get down, "DIG"?
If you google in my "name WTC 911" you'll see dylans latest antics "I'm recieving threats to my life" Like a little girl. Then to influence others on the bourd to take action against me. You'll notice he has no balls to do it himself meaning stand alone facing an adversary not bringing a mobb of people to do it for him.
All the talk about going against the government yet scared to face one man alone.
Really funny guy.
On my word, you try and put me or my family in danger rest asured I'll smoke your f%cking ass, as GOD is my witness.
Hey and for those military guys: the biggest question should be.....HGAF?
Time to clean house.
Have a nice day
Paul Isaac Jr
My point is that if you really want to expose, for example wingtv, the key is to compile the information you have, maybe even put it on tape, for others to use and spread. This way you would reach much more people.
Reach me by E-mail my friend. I'd likw to send out some material which circunstancialy is fit for the courts.
First I'd like to send out two Newspaper articles from Feb 15 1975 regarding the fire at the WTC which is described as a very hot fire, so hot about 30 firemen wre treated for heat exaustion.
I have a copy of the complete WTC complex from an official FDNY publication from the "93" bombing.
I have some other material which is quite imformative on specs for the maspeth holder tanks which taken down 2 months prior to the attack on 9-11. The demolition was conducted by CDI. The tanks measured 400ft the same hight as the tilt in the south tower. Wondering how I came to that measurement? Take the tower hight which has been measured at 1377ft and devide the number of floors (110) and you should recieve the aprox on floor hieght then count down to the 78flr and your should come up with 400ft exactly.
There is othe rinfo that I can place regarding that day but I wouldn't want to place all my cards on the table because there theives who might take credit for it to try and make a buck.
Take care
Paul Isaac Jr
Just to show how real I am, I send out the best picture of the steel support beams under the controversial (truss,LOL) Floors.
You'll see them for yourself and it will be the end of the flimsy floor BS.
GOD Bless
Paul Isaac Jr
If you are convinced about 911 beeng a fake, dont fall into the trap of buying the official resolution to this problem. That can be a UN takeover/controll of american govermant/military.
The UN is probably involved in this to, as is all media international and all secret services around the world.
Check around. Hard to find anything.
LOOSE CHANGE 2 is an EXCELLENT film that raises the questions...rather than attempt to supply the answers. The fact that NO ONE in the main stream media will touch this film gives it credibity at once.
If you want to understand the questions in greater detail....read this and THINK. This site has huge amounts of credible information as do so many other credible experts such as Scholars for 911 Truth. Open your eyes, sheeple....
CLICK HERE
Can you imagine grabbing the controls of a commercial plane, while thousands of feet in the air? You're above clouds, and you can't even really look down in a cockpit. I don't think regular pilots themselves could have aimed the planes at the targets without help from traffic control. And the hijackers weren't even good pilots. Did the hijackers use a compass and a map to find their targets?
Some of the things in the documentary are undoubtedly not correct, but when playing the 911 coverup game, you play percentages. I say that loose change is at least 90% truth.
The Pentagon, Pennsylvania and the Twins are all crashes were a lot of things happened for the first time.
PS- Bush' granpappy was Hitlers financial advisor. Clear enough for ya? Add one mustache and a uniform (mission accomplished) and you got yourself a Hitler wannabe.
http://www.radiodujour.com