Bozoulian | Column by Pete Talbot
What’s Underneath the “Snobbery” of Bozeman and Missoula
By Pete Talbot, 3-24-06
There have been comments that this column has slighted the other cities and towns in Montana.
"You folks in Bozeman and Missoula are snobs," a woman in Kalispell remarked.
She’s right. We can be pretentious. You don’t hear the spontaneous “howdy” on Main St. in Bozeman, or Higgins Ave. in Missoula, anymore. The welcome wagon isn’t quite as welcoming.
Is it because we’re just too cool or are there underlying factors? Could it be that we’re not quite sure what to make of all these new faces on our streets, that we want this breakneck growth to slow a bit, that maybe we’re losing control over the future of our cities?
Change can be scary. Old schools and family cafes close, new schools and franchise fast-food shops open. Our hiking trails and fishing holes become more crowded. And while other Montana cities may not offer sushi or Beaujolais, they also don’t have median home prices approaching $200,000.
After traveling to Great Falls and Billings recently, I remember what Montana cities used to be like. The folks there just seem to be more genuine. They may not be thriving but they’re secure in their Montana way of life. Maybe because Great Falls and Billings aren’t changing as fast as many other New West towns, they’re more accepting of strangers.
I’ve always been proud of Montanans, both urban and rural. They tend to be hard working, independent and they keep their noses out of other people’s business. They judge you by your character, not by your income or skin color or even, usually, your sexual preference. They’re the kind of folks who’ll stop and help you out when your rig breaks down on the highway.
Can we keep these fine attributes? It’s going to be a tough balancing act – to stay accepting of newcomers in the face of monumental change. To do so, we need a plan.
Not everybody agrees on the definition of smart growth, but smart growth is exactly what we need. The true cost of the ten-acre ranchette needs to be figured into the parcel’s price. This means infrastructure, like roads, and the increased police force, firefighters and schools that the outlying areas require. City dwellers shouldn’t have to subsidize these things.
But what about the more intangible costs like loss of open space and wildlife habitat, and access to public lands, or the diminished air and water quality? Figure those costs into the price tag and you’ll see a lot fewer of this these properties on the market. Also, enact a gated community surcharge – few things in Montana are less hospitable than gated communities – then we could use the fees to buy up some open space after we’ve been locked out of these resident-only developments.
Conversely, we need to encourage growth inside our cities, especially in the more blighted areas of our urban core. We need better public transportation, more bicycle and hiking trails and more neighborhood commercial establishments. I believe folks will be friendlier when they get out of their cars and start walking or biking to their neighborhood grocery stores, coffee shops, pizza joints, etc.
These few suggestions may not be the answer to all our snootiness issues but current growth management strategies in Bozeman and Missoula are polarizing people. A change in direction certainly couldn’t hurt.
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Comments
I think that you have some good points, and the topic is definitely worth thoughtful consideration. I do believe that at times Msla and Bzm denizens are 'snobby', but I don't think it's necessarily a function of the city. The folks that hold the snob factor high would be snobby in Montana, California, or Zimbabwe.
These are the folks who consider pretentious lamp shops and four high-end boutiques in a row in their downtown the end-all-be-all of 'cultural presence' in a community. These are the folks who have yet to wrap their minds around the fact that Missoula and Bozeman are not cities in Montana that hold history of community and preservation of local flavor in the highest regard. Higher than box stores and chain restaurants, even. Imagine.
I adore Missoula - I graduated from college there and I had a fantastic time being a student there. I love Bozeman, my grandparents lived there for over 20 years and some of my fondest memories are of the Christmas lights glowing over Main Street in December. I would not live in either city today.
Our Exec. Dir. of the Butte Chamber of Commerce is fond of saying that yes, Butte has a big ol' pit, but every town has its pit, in a way. Missoula and Bozeman residents can barely afford their mortgage payments, find jobs to keep them from being mortgage-poor, or feel comfortable allowing their children to run around in the neighborhood after dark. There are instances of severe gay-bashing in both cities.
I'm just guessing that folks who knee-jerk the comment 'y'all are snobby' are recognizing that some Missoula/Bozeman residents feel that the rest of Montana simply wishes to be them. It ain't so. We like where we live just fine, and don't appreciate the sometimes ethnocentric attitues and sensibilities that occasionally come out of your fine cities.
Jen.
And Jen! Who are you kidding? We know you want to be a Missoulian!
Okay...in all seriousness...seems like Missoula is a friendly place once you've lived here awhile and have gotten to know the people around you. But couldn't that be said for any place in Montana? I've visited lots of rural places in MT and have often gotten the cold shoulder from locals who seem openly hostile to visitors.
The place friendliest to strangers? New York City.
We can still find solitude on the ski trails just north of town, uncrowded lift lines and ferocious back country at Discovery, fine trout fishing on the Big Hole without another angler in sight, abundant public land for elk and mulie and antelope hunting at our elbow, and our own local wilderness area.
In Butte, glorious Victorian homes are cheap, people are friendly, and it's a traffic jam when there are 3 cars at the stoplight.
Yeah for Superfund! - Pat
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Holding one's tongue might contribute more to reducing partisanship than expressing another opinion.
I do, however, find it mildly odd that someone would think the secret to being nice to people--newcomers or others--is to be found in central planning.
I am constantly amazed by some people's capacity for self-delusion. This post has nothing, NOTHING to do with politics. Why did you even go there?
Next time you decry partisanship and the polarization of our communities, take a look in the mirror.
You grandstanding slut! Who the hell gives you the right to denegrade people in Missoula. We're not arrogant or insecure, you supercilious scotch-swilling toad! We're always open to valid critique. So shut up.
Though there may not be a snobby person in Butte or Billings, I know there's some crazy mofo who lives down the street, who has plenty of firearms and is waiting for an excuse to use them. I'm more scared of that person, then some soft Range Rover driving Cali yuppie transplant with $$$.
Wish I had it in me to incite further the Bozangelinos vs. Missoulifornicators, but yous seem to be doing a pretty good job on your own.
After a few beers at Pissers Palace, a theory emerged: When people have lost their personal history, sense of place, and (therefore) soul, they get an offer in the mail to buy a title of "c'est noble" (trans: snob). The title often turns out to be an interesting self referential joke -- sort of like those Enlightenment-era Jews living in German states who bought (or were assigned, through the Judenregelment) Germanic secular-sounding surnames and ended up with handles like "Mauskopf" (trans: mousehead).
Anyone for requiring alien transplants to Bozeman and Missoula to buy a new name? [In Butte we aliens can simply make up stories about growing up in Dublin Gulch or Meaderville...]
The problem with the New Urbanist ideals is that you can't recreate the city in the country no matter how hard you try. What is needed is a completely new idea that helps the two ends of the spectrum exist simultaneously, instead of trying to force one condition on another.
However, I can remember a time when Bozeman was a lot more friendly. A time when the CNFR was still here and when cowboy hats were commonplace and not the exception. Hmmm, think there is any correlation? I do. Both Billings and Great Falls are more agriculturally based than either Bozeman or Missoula. Both Missoula and Bozeman have forgotten their roots. Maybe if they look back at how they came to be, there might be an answer there.
shear California Numbers of us. We dont give a damm how much the real estate costs. WE HAVE
THIS THING CALLED MONEY $$$$$$$ and you idiots
can move to those dust blown shitholes like Great Falls and Billings. Face it we now own it!!
Crime, Gangs, Faggots, traffic jams and trashing
the enviroment is what or culture is and does---
So GET USE TO IT OR MOVE OUT !!!!! Say Bye Bye to
all the Prime western Land idiots!!!
Liberal little fruit basket and take all your
Golden state trash with you !!!!!!!!!!.