By Brenna Moore, 7-31-06
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Thanks for the continuing articles on this complex issue.
I love Mayor Engen's idea of a Stephens Avenue-type four-lane boulevard.
One thing I don't understand is, why a three-lane on Broadway but not on all the other high-traffic streets in town? Reserve, Brooks, Orange, Higgins -- can you imagine?!
"Street design is not the only thing... it has to be a mindset, everyone has to watch out for eachother and reduce their speeds enough so that a driver is aware and able to stop for anything and everything. I think in our car culture we just go way too fast," Giordano said. "Can't we slow down a little bit, can't we trade a little bit of time for a safer road, more equity among modes of different transportation, cleaner air, less noise?" he said.
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There's more congestion, thus the air is dirtier. People's mindsets are now less concerned w/the guy on a bike or the kid in a wheelchair and more concerned w/how late they are for work. Drivers, pedestrians and bikers are more impatient and irritated than ever. Idealism is great on paper, but when you only have one main street between Orange and Russell, you have to set real priorities over let's-hold-hands-and-skip-down-broadway hopes. If you want better drivers, talk to the DMV who hands out the licenses.
Has everyone suddenly become transportation engineers? Designing complicated roadways such as West Broadway takes expertise that is in high demand these days. Leaving the task to amateurs, particularly amateurs with vested interests, doesn't seem the wisest course in the long-term.
The reality is that West Broadway is changing, and I hope that people are not opposing change just because they don't want to adapt to changing situation. What was once a major thoroughfare, now travels through much more mixed (cars, bikes, pedestrians) with local traffic. What was once a mix of commercial and light industrial land uses has now become a residential neighborhood.
And, then, as the Riverfront Triangle gets developed, and more use is made of that side of the waterfront, we will see more and more people looking to cross through this neighborhood. Folks will be crossing the river, maybe following a rail-trail from the Northside neighborhood, and others will be walking over to the new Safeway.
In the future, this will be a lively part of town, and I'm not sure a busy, through-road is going to belong any more.
I'm not a transportation engineer, but I know a gut feeling about a city council reprioritizing public opinion for state funds when I feel it. I agree that Amsterdam traffic in the Rockies would be nice and all, but I still think that the particular placement of our stretch of road poses different considerations. For example, bikers and peds have a bridge at California street, cars do not. Even if it wanted to, where is that flow supposed go now? The back roads that might take it are detours at best and don't presently seem suited to do so.
The more opinions I see about this, the more I see it's effectively a fight for space between Missoula ideals and practicality - not unlike recent housing debates here. I just know that all this fuss is not just growing pains. Direct effects on businesses have prompted negative changes, siren frequency has significantly increased, and I've never seen a stronger citizen campaign in this neighborhood before. I don't think it's as simple as either side likes to believe.
My idea for foot bridges fizzled like a generic firecracker so I give up...
Wait, by Jove, I've got it. We tear down the entire stretch of road on Broadway from Russell to Van Buren, fill it in with grass and flowers and fairies and unicorns and then put two huge concrete parking structures at either end of the "Blissful Broadway Path."
Next we get the city of Missoula to buy 3 or 4,000 donkeys. When you park your car in either parking structure, you get a donkey to ride in return. They could have fun names like "Road Rage", "Stagnant Pollution", and Tipper. Grass is cheaper the gas (most of the time) and who doesn't like traveling aboard a donkey...well besides the donkey, tah-he.
Oh boy, it'll be fun. Maybe someone can open a shop that rents croquette mallets and instead of going to work everyone can play a city-wide game of Donkey-Polo to go along with the Donkey-Show that is the Broadway Road Diet.
For the most part -- since the road is way to congested for regular walking folk -- the only "pedestrians" I see down around that area are the people trying to get the anti-road diet petitions signed.
by the way, solid job on this story Brenna. Keep up the good work.
Comment By sarah, 8-01-06Wow, Mark- while I actually like the 3 lane configuration, your comment is the best. Just one question- where did you find the unicorns? I'm going to see if I can trade my bike for one on EBay.
Comment By Mark, 8-01-06Silly Sara, unicorns are readily available in Missoula. They usually like to hang out around affordable housing, so I'd start there. Good luck.
Comment By Nick Domitrovich, 8-01-06Anyone implying that MIST is an amateur group with no expertise in transportation planning, is sorely mistaken. Members of that group have decades of urban transportation planning under their collective belt.
Comment By Andy Hammond, 8-01-06MIST is a anti-growth, anti-automobile activist group focused converting Missoula into a "model city" of ineffeicient and ridiculous transportation systems. Their agenda is to promote increased bicycle usage and decrease auto usage at the cost of business and jobs downtown.
The accidents and fatalities are the result of horrible lighting and the victim's state of sobreity. Not the road or the driver! Quit using that as the excuse - it's a lie! The proponents need to be honest and tell the truth - it's for the bike lanes and the first step in eliminating automobiles downtown.
Thanks for exposing MIST's nefarious agenda Andy. Short-sighted policy hawks almost make me wish the near-future was upon us -- One with $4.00/gal. gas, insanely expensive consumer goods, oodles of dying sprawl up and down the valley, throusands of miles of roads that we can't afford to maintain, etc... Much like most of Missoula's anti-infill crowd, our citizenry who thinks that the solution to every traffic issue is to make the road bigger look at the issue through a narrow lens and are generally motivated for selfish reasons and have no plan for future conditions.
Comment By Melissa Stiltner, 8-03-06^To be fair, we're all being selfish here.
You're not pedalling off years of hell just because you might ride a bike. I don't think city council has a place to decide between missionaries on either side. We all have personal agendas, and no one seems to want to acknowledge the other. If the people can't tally up unbiased research and present a complete solution, I really believe it's at the stage where a vote is needed.
I'll vote against this mess until planners respond to a lot of unanswered questions.
Mark I liked the idea of donkeys, but do we get "donkey ed" at little or no cost? Unicorns and fairies are not practicable with our pollution problems. Grass planted on a median is not good in the winter time either. Try driving on East Pine street in the winter time you will see. The traffic "bottleneck" at Broadway and Orange Is a" nightmare" for the Hospital and the clinic. Again I suggest one or more pedestrian bridges like the ones built for the " Northside" pedestrian traffic. I too am sympathetic to plight of diabled people living in that area. Traffic is not going to decrease any because of housing subdivisins developing all around this area. The pedestrian bridges if built high eneough and placed properly could help the disabled residents of the area to cross with no exposure to or danger from traffic. Fours lanes would surely help the ambulances, fire trucks,lenforcement vehicles. Are there any more important vehicles than these? Unless some one has a plan for a small continuously flowing light traffic method like small busses and etcetera or baning all but energency or serviceehiclesork. If anyone really thinks three lanes are doing a good job try going through Broad and Orange after 3:00P.M. or Russell and Broadway and maybe you will rethink your position whether going by car or bike.
Comment By mark, 8-07-06then the "I's" will have it.
Comment By "Uncle J", 8-07-06Traffic is not going to lessen or flow more smoothly on West Broadway just because you try to reduce it's flow. What part of this does the M. I. S. T. group not understand? We are surrounded on all side by continuing subdivision developments. The developers try to maximize the number of house on lots for one reason only," MONEY". With each additional subdivision you can expect at least one or more vehicles per househould.Each one of these additional vehicles will pass through this east to west corridor numeruous times for work,pleasure,and etc.. If the charrette the mayor suggests can come up with a viable solution, we stand a chance of avoiding the traffic problems that are currently growing worse in the Miller creek area. Ask any one who lives in that area. If you have any doubts try turning into the southside Wal-Mart at 5:00 P.M. or leavimg the Golden Corral restaurant or entering or leaving upper and lower Miller Creek. We are now experiencing the same type of traffic problems to our west, particulaly in the area around Mullan road & Deschamps Lane also Flynn Lane and etc. because developers in the name of providing "affordable housing" haven't bothered to provide eneough accessable entries to and from their developments therby creating traffic "boondogles" like West Broadway & Russell.Progress shouldn't be stifled by any meams, but what has happened to the principle of "common sense" along with the progress?
Comment By Bob Giordano, 8-08-06If you provide excellent bike, walk, and transit facilities, many people will choose to use them. This latent demand has been identified in numerous surveys over the last decade in Missoula County. What's great about 4 to 3 lane conversions ('road diets') is that you end up with much better bike, walk, and transit facilities, while maintaining approximately the same motor vehicle capacity. In a 4-lane system, the inner lanes clog with left-turning vehicles. A 3-lane system solves this, though some left turns are sometimes restricted (not many with good design, and very few if modern single lane roundabouts are worked in). Yet the conversion is very much worth it if one considers the equity and safety of gaining bike lanes and pedestrian islands.
I agree that massive growth has the potential to overwhelm what we all like about this valley. This means we need to rethink the commute-only-by-car-go-as-fast-as-possible lifestyle. It does not work when thousands try it all at once.
Broadway was 4-lanes for forty years. Business owners fought the expansion to 4-lanes back in 1966 because they understood fast traffic is not good for business. Some change is a bit painful.
This is what MIST proposes: all arterials in the Missoula Valley become 3-lane systems. The flow will work for everyone. In combination, we double bus service and restore passenger rail. We also do everything possible to encourage bicycling and walking. And instead of creating more and more sprawling subdivisions, we create more real communities. Can this work?
Well, it's over a year later, the Diet is no longer new, and it still doesn't work. It's made a mess of traffic. It's time to admit that this is an experiment that didn't work.
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