By Pete Talbot, 8-27-06
Annie Cathey is 37-years-old and has worked for the Motor Vehicles Department in the Missoula County Treasurer’s office for seven years. She makes $12.22 an hour.You darn straight that they are tied to the spending caps intiatives. Why else would they be running in all the states with the TABOR stle initiatives up? These are from the same out of state real estate mogul, Howard Rich, that is paying for CI97 here in Montana I bet. CI97 is a bad deal for Montana, just like it was in Colorado. It took them a decade to get rid of it, and the bad effect to their infrastructure lingers on. If they were good for Colorado, why are Colorado bussinessman calling it a bad deal?
Comment By pete geddes, 8-28-06Pete:
Just wondering: Do you feel the same way about out-of-state money that supports causes you favor?
Not surprising Pete Geddes defends Berman. As an executive for the Bozeman-based F.R.E.E. he has long accepted--and refused to disclose--donations from Phillip-Morris, Big Oil, and Big Energy among others.
Comment By Shane C. Mason, 8-28-06Pete,
It's not just about out of state money, it's about the fact that this legislation wasn't written in Montana, the signatures were gathered by PAID out of state collectors. Nothing about this is from Montana. If it is good for Montana, then let it come from Montana. We don't need Howard Rich from New York pushing his plans here and ruining our state like TABOR almost ruined Colorado. This is one of the few cases where you can actually point to an example and say "See, it doesn't work".
Twilly Cannon:
Why do you keep making the false claim the FREE does not disclose its funding? It's all disclosed on our web site under funding. Really.
Shane:
I agree. How about the push to raise the minimum wage? I'm just asking if there is not a double standard here.
I stand corrected. I hadn't been to the FREE site since the latest judge scandal.
Now Pete...you want to tell the readers when that page went up? It certainly wasn't 2003 as the copyright implies.
As I mentioned in a previous post to you, FREE's funding has been fully disclosed on our web site since 1996. That was my first year at FREE, and I oversaw the complete web site overhaul.
Comment By Shane C. Mason, 8-28-06Pete,
I signed the petition to raise minimum wage. As this article points out, Montanan's volunteered to gather signatures for Raise Montana. The bill was born and funded in Montana. That is the difference.
The other 3 initiatives (I97 included) were born in the mind and idealogy of Howard Rich in New York city and are being pushed in states all over the country. Paid sinature collectors used nefarious and deceptive methods for collecting signatures. That is the difference.
Shane:
(1) Raise Montana's web site does not disclose their sources of funding. Maybe Twilly Cannon can investigate and report back.
But I'm skeptical that such an effort so closely linked to national Democratic Party politics is free of out-of-state money.
(2) If it's really true that "Paid sinature collectors used nefarious and deceptive methods for collecting signatures" I hope you and others will bring evidence of impropriety to the attention of the appropriate state officials.
(3) I am simply asking this question: Does the author of the origional piece object to any effort with out-of-state funding, even for the ideological causes he favors? If not, is there a journalistic double standard here?
Pete,
You act like you are hearing about this stuff for the first time. I will bring you up to speed.
I did a little fact sheet here last month. There have been plenty of credible accusations about the signature gathers practices. In the Helena IR, in the GF Tribune and many others. The last details a lawsuit filed challenging the validity of the signatures gathered.
It may be that Raise Montana has gotten out of state funding. Accpeting out of state funding does not instantly demonize a project. There is something wrong when the ENTIRE project is funded by out of state money as these 3 initiatives are.
Hi! Definitely nice and neat site you got there.:
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