By Dan Richardson, 9-19-06
Sheesh. The quality of help these days. I mean, you spread around a few million dollars to fuel 20 or 30 political initiatives, you expect your hired help to get the job done right. Then, you have a bunch of the initiatives thrown out because your hired signature-gatherers faked, gamed and defrauded the system.Good synopsis, Dan. It should also be noted that yesterday, a district court judge in Helena, MT threw out CI-97 (the cap on state spending). His ruling said it would illegally amend more than one part of the Montana Constitution. Unfortunately, CI-97 (and CI-98 and I-154) will still be on the ballot as the Supreme Court probably won't hear the appeals until after the Nov. 7 election.
Comment By Jimurl, 9-20-06It looks like your howierich.com link is broken, Dan. Perhaps you were aiming for [url=http://www.howierichexposed.com]http://www.howierichexposed.com[/url].
Comment By Eric Dondero, 9-20-06Mr. Richardson's article is full of lies and gross distortions.
I am one of the petitioners Mr. Richardson speaks of. I collected nearly 10,000 signatures on the ballot initiatives in Montana, Oregon, and Missouri.
I am a US Navy Veteran. Apparently Mr. Richardson does not believe that Americans have a right to campaign in politics in states other than those they reside in. When I served my country for 4 years overseas I served THE ENTIRE NATION; that's all 50 states including Puerto Rico, Guam, the Virgin Islands and the District of Columbia. I care about preserving freedom for the entire United States of America, not just my home state of Texas.
Funny, Mr. Richardson doesn't mention the fact that Left-wing peititioners do exactly the same thing. They travel all over the US for Minimum Wage petitions, and other Left-wing causes. Funny that the Left-wing press isn't saying anything about possible shenanigans in those Left-wing petitions. Funny that the Left-wing press has completely ignored the story of how we Fiscal Conservative petitioners were harrassed severely by Left-wing AARP and Union Thug blockers throughout the petition drive, most notably in Butte, Anaconda and Helena, Montana and St. Louis, Missouri.
The difference though between us Fiscal Conservative petitioners and socialist petitioners, is that those of us who are libertarian petitioners, ONLY CARRY LIBERTARIAN AND FISCAL CONSERVATIVE PETITIONS. The Left-wing petitioners are almost to a person petitioning whores. They will carry whatever comes their way so long as they pay the most money.
But us Fiscal Conservatives only carry those initiatives that we believe in.
Also, contrary to what Mr. Richardson asserts, the pay we receive is pittifully low. On paper it appears that we make some good money. But that's only before you figure in our hotel bills, gas (!!!), food and the massive amount of other expenses that come up in these efforts.
And those of us who are Fiscal Conservatives petitioners, many times petition or campaign without pay.
The last two nights for instance, I've been living in my truck sleeping in Wal-Mart parking lots. I'm down to $9.00 to my name. I'm here campaigning for the Stop the Over Spending and Property Rights Initiatives CAUSE I BELIEVE IN THEM!!! And wish to see them pass.
I'm not some mercenary as Mr. Richardson implies.
All this big money coming in to these campaigns is being spent on lawyers to fight all the Big Government backers who want to see the initiatives thrown off the ballot. Very little of it is spent on those of us who are fighting for these causes on the grass roots level. If it was being spent on us, then I wouldn't have to sleep in my truck and take showers at truck stops.
Furthermore, Mr. Richardson implies that we Fiscal Conservative petitioners are idiots; that we're just out for a buck and are more than willing to misrepresent an issue to "get a sig." Nothing could be further from the truth. We libertarian/fiscal conservative petitioners are smart to the games of the Democrats and other Left-wing freedom-haters. We know that they've got an army of lawyers waiting in the wings. Thus, we are extra, extra, extra, careful to make sure that we honestly and straightforwardly represent these petitions to the voters. We want these initiatives to pass! Why in the world would we want to screw it up, just for one extra sig?
Mr. Richardson has deeply offended those of us who support freedom and human liberty.
I left a good job with nice benefits as an interpreter in Houston for an international insurance group to come support these intiatives here in the Northwest.
I have other friends in the libertarian/fiscal conservative movement who have similarly dropped everything this year to help out these efforts.
How dare Mr. Richardson insult us by this disgraceful article by insinuating that we engaged in shenanigans, and misrepresented these issues to voters. How dare he insult those of us who believe in freedom and liberty, as our founding fathers did, and want to see our government limited rather than become some socialist behemoth.
Mr. Richardson, you are a horribly biased and incredibly inaccurate reporter. You spread filthy lies. And anyone I know I will be sure to tell them not to read your rag of a publication.
Wow. Next time don't sugar coat your comments.... Didn't Dan use this example:
"The political left in Oregon has a parallel system of activists and front groups backed by labor unions. There are activists like Patty Wentz, a former Willamette Week reporter, who now works for the union-funded Our Oregon coalition, which opposes “right-wing ballot measures.” Similarly, the state’s unions — particularly its public employee unions, like the Oregon Education Association and the SEIU/OPEU — fund activist front groups and web sites, like Defend Oregon and the Voter Education Project."
Notice the above forementioned does not state what Ms. Wentz actually does. I see no reference to her as a "petitioner." One could gather from that paragraph that she was indeed one of the very blockers who tried to keep us libertarian/fiscaly conservative petitioners from trying to gather signatures in front of post offices, grocery stores and public sidewalks.
Also, not a single mention of the fact that the Left-wing Freedom-haters blocked us from getting signatures, sometimes severely. Meanwhile, the Leftists did not receive the same treatment at all, when gathering their sigs.
Furthermore, Mr. Richardson did not at all imply that there were any shenanigans among the Left wing petitioners, as he did with us libertarian/fiscal conservatives.
Mr. Richardson's column is riddled with horrible inaccuracies and gross overstatements.
Here's just one:
He identifies Howie Rich as a "Libertarian Party activist." This is laughable. Howie has not been involved with the LP since 1983. Howie was essentially purged cause he and others like Cato Institute President Ed Crane wanted to mainstream the LP.
Howie is a much more of a middle of the road centrist libertarian. In fact, many Libertarians hardly consider Howie to be a libertarian at all, for his support for term limits and other middle-of-the-road stances.
The Stop the Over Spending initiatives for instance, don't even cut spending. They're just mild limits on growth in spending.
Hardcore Libertarians believe this is a sell-out. They laugh at Left-wingers, and even some Conservatives who portray these initiatives as "deep spending cuts."
I have Libertarian Party friends who won't vote for Howie's initiatives cause they view them as too mild, and phony spending cuts.
Sheesh! (To borrow a term from Left-wing crazies like Richardson.) Imagine if the Libertarian Party were to petition for real spending cuts in state governments. They Left-wing Hugo Chavez America-haters would probably shoot Libertarian Party members on site, at the very least lock them up for "crimes against the state."
Can't have any of that Thomas Jefferson stuff now. Can't be going around saying radical stuff like "government is best, which governs least."
Are we living in Orwell's 1984 or what?
"Cuts in growth of spending" are now "spending cuts."
"Property rights" are now "infringements on government's ability to grow itself and provide for public services."
Scary, very scary indeed.
Hi Eric, thanks for your thoughtful and temperate comments. I'm happy to read how my reporting has resonated with you.
Addressing your own, well, to borrow a phrase, "horrible inaccuracies and gross overstatements," would be a labor for Hercules; I mean, really, if I'd written half the things you wrote I wrote, I'd have a much longer article.
Let me address just two points. First, please notice that those statements in the article that the signature-gathering process (certainly not by you, of course, but others) involved "substantial illegal participation of out-of-state circulators", and that the "signature-gathering process was permeated by a pervasive and general pattern and practice of deceit, fraud and procedural non-compliance" -- those are not my words. They are quotes. They they were written by these other people. Judges, I guess you'd call them.
Secondly, it is true that the documentation (party minutes, newsletters, etc) for Mr. Rich's Libertarian Party involvement comes from the 1970s and 1980s. He and his wife, however, until about two years ago operated a bookstore (Laissez Faire Books — see http://www.lfb.org/index.php?action=help&helpfile=lfbhistory.html), which sells and promotes the usual libertarian library. (Ayn Rand for all!) The Party may not have found Howard mainstream enough for them, but it's pretty clear that he and they share basic ideas about government. Not to mention reading preferences.
I do thank you for your Navy service, Eric, and sympathize with your personal situation. Sleeping in a truck in parking lots is hard on the back. (I've done that.)
You know, seeing the kind of money being thrown around (by groups of all political affiliations) might make you and your fellow signature-gatherers demand better treatment and support. At least better pay. It's probably a labor of love for you, but, shoot, you shouldn't have to spend yourself into bankruptcy driving from state to state, injecting yourself into other peoples' politics.
Why should the lawyers and political activists get all the dough? Maybe you could unionize.
Thanks again for your comments.
Dan
For those interested, as a follow-up, I was featured in the Christian Science Monitor this week regarding my activism on behalf of property rights initiatives.
You can see a link to the article at:
http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com