By Todd Wilkinson, 12-16-06
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Todd, thank you for the TRCP article. I joined about a year ago and found this organization to be a great fit. If possible I suggest that you have a bean with Ken Barret and discuss Life in The Open.
Comment By Gerald Green, 12-16-06Your typically articulate and VERY persuasive article, Todd.
Americans ARE tired of division in the conservation "movement." If legitimate outdoorsmen are not credible spokespersons to them or to the rank-and-file critics of environmental "latte-drinkers", then those critics are not sincere or fair-minded supporters of responsible "game" habitat management.
Here's hoping that you are correct: TRCP cannot reasonably be considered "radical" and will have the same sort of universal impact on fence-sitting Americans that Ducks Unlimited once did.
Nice going!
Gerald Green
An organization like this is needed because the species-specific groups can carry the ball only so far, plus they get a little too compartmentalized with their specialty or piece of the ecosystem and lose the big picture perspective. Also, it's timely because hunting and fishing participation rates are flat or declining in this nation.
Comment By Bill Schneider, 12-17-06Great article, Todd. I believe that for decades people and agencies wanting rampant development of public lands encouraged splits among conservationists such as hunters vs. non-hunters, mountain bikers vs. hikers, etc., and this has severely limited progress in protecting public lands. Now, though, I see many positive signs that groups are coming together for their common good and putting minor differences such as a dislike for trophy hunting aside to work collaboratively for landscape preservation that benefits everybody. The good work being down by TRCP is a good example.....Bill
Comment By Robert Hoskins, 12-17-06Todd
I'm going to have to be a bit cautious and disagree with your unqualified praise of the TRCP; there are things about these groups associated with TRCP that bother me. While it is important that the divisions in the conservation movement be healed. and while it is important that hunters and anglers return to their conservation roots to think in terms of strategic habitat protection rather than just the protection and production of game species, we cannot ignore legitimate problems.
One of those legitimate problems is how the economics of wildlife and habitat conservation practiced by groups like the RMEF and TU affects the public trust in wildlife, and specifically, how it affects the access of all hunters and anglers to fish and wildlife.
In other words, if these groups are successful in achieving their aims, what public benefit is there if there is a move toward European models of wildlife management, which emphasize the establishment and maintenance of private property rights in wildlife, and away from what people like Valerius Geist and Jim Posewitz have called the North American Model of Wildlife Management, which emphasizes common property rights in wildlife that belong to all of us, not to just a few?
I recall the huge fight in Wyoming a decade ago over "set-aside" hunting licenses; landowners made a tremendous push to force the Wyoming Game & Fish Department to grant them big-game hunting licenses that could be sold on the open market at a huge profit for landowner. The justification for set-asides was ostensibly that "landowners need incentives to protect habitat on private property." Trouble was, all the landowners who would have benefited from set asides were known to be quite weathy, and the purpose of the set-asides was not so much as incentives to protect habitat as it was to establish private property rights in those hunting licenses, and by extension in wildlife, to underwrite very profitable "ranch hunting programs."
The intent by wealthy landowners to establish private rights in public wildlife for ranch hunting programs is a very real one. To address that problem, I wrote an essay, which has been published on NewWest, about Aldo Leopold and the problems he had with the economics of wildlife conservation, which tended toward privatization even in his day. The problem is very real; and I direct you toward that essay for more information.
This situation of wildlife privatization is most extreme in the state of Texas. Talk to any hunter in Texas, which has very little public land, and ask him or her about the access problem. In Texas, landowners have effectively established de facto private property rights in wildlife, and the public is cut off from game that rightlyfully belongs to the public. The vast majority of hunters cannot afford to pay what the market will bear to hunt in Texas.
Wildlife privatization is a form of class warfare. That's the way is was and still is in Europe; I know that for a fact--I was stationed in Germany for four years. That's where we appear to be headed in North America.
In other words, in Texas and other states, landowners are engaging in the process of enclosing the commons in wildlife, with enormous negative impact on the common good.
As I look at the single species groups like RMEF and TU, I see a disturbing willingness to overlook this problem with private landowners and support efforts that tend to increase the control landowners have over wildlife for the purpose of profiting from hunting and fishing programs, contrary to the public interest. Indeed, the RMEF was supporting the so-called Private Lands/Public Wildlife program in Wyoming a decade ago until it became a political hot potato as Wyoming hunters wised up to what PL/PW was actually about. I have seen the same tendencies in TU in programs to improve trout habitat on private lands so that landowners could profit from commercial fishing. Yet, the public is excluded.
This is precisely the issue in Montana with the various landowner challenges to Montana's wonderful Stream Access Law.
In short, as hunters and anglers come together to solve problems of common concern, they should ask themselves whether the solutions advocated by TRCP and its partners protect the North American Model of Wildlife Management, in which wildlife is a public trust, or do they tend toward the European Model of Wildlife Management, which is in full force in Texas, which effectively privatizes wildlife and excludes the public.
Best,
Robert
Robert,
You raise some important issues regarding public access for the average guy. I joined the TRCP not because I agreed with every position or with every family member of the organization but with the overall direction and goals of the family. The part of the TRCP family that reflects my personal feelings on the issues you raise is the Life In The Open series produced by Ken Barret. Almost every episode brings up public access and the efforts to enhance and maintain it. His closing episode for the 2006 season was about hunting on BMA land in the Miles City area of Montana. Block Management Areas are funded through out of state license sales to promote cooperation between private landowners and the access requirements of field sport citizens. Mr. Barret always makes a point to connect public access with the vision of TR for field sports experiences. I share your concern over the direction of the RMEF. That being said I wish to acknowledge their many contributions to wild game enhancement.
Craig
I met Ken Barrett about 8 years ago when he was associated with Jim Posewitz at Orion--The Hunters Institute, when I participated in the first seminar Orion sponsored with Montana State on the philosophy and history of hunting. I have a lot of respect for both Ken and Jim.
Yes, RMEF does a lot of good things for habitat. However, I also remember the "Saturday Night Massacre" at RMEF some years ago when a number of people more committed to the public trust in wildlife than to the privatization direction in which the RMEF was moving were fired without warning. This raised a lot of red flags about RMEF for me. I also remember the commercialization series that Dave Stalling, when he was conservation editor at Bugle, initiated in 1998; it took him a year to get the series even approved, as there was tremendous opposition to it on the Board from members who supported commercialization and privatization of wildlife. I had the honor of having the last publication in the year- long series, an edited version of the Leopold essay mentioned in my previous post.
When I look at the TRCP website, what strikes me most is that the organization is closely linked to corporate America, through its board members, its staff, and its partners. After all, the conservation organizations are all corporations, albeit non-profit, but when you look at their websites, they are also an expression of corporate America. This makes me quesy. Are these organizations actually walking the walk, or are they just talking the talk?
I would feel a good deal better if TRCP and other organizations took solid, unequivocal stands in favor of the North American Model of Wildlife Management and the public trust in wildlife, and condemned all forms of wildlife privatization. As yet, they have not bothered to do so, although they certainly have had the opportunity. Jim Posewitz at Orion has been an eloquent spokesman not only for hunting ethics, but also the public trust and our style of wildlife management. It's not as if the other groups have never heard of it.
It seems to me that this is an important point. I'm certainly not opposing the unification of hunters and anglers and their organizations to work in concert to improve wildlife habitat as well as hunting and fishing opportunities. I do however have questions about the reliability of the processes and organizations that have sprung up to express that unification. Quite frankly, I don't trust them.
Robert
Robert, having a "doubting Thomas" healthy skepticism is the way to go. It's important that it's communicated to leadership so that they never have the luxury to take citizens, voters, and members for granted.
At the home page of the TRCP website: http://trcp.org their policy intiatives break down into 3 areas. Which, if any, do you take exception?
So, Craig, you make yourself a continual advertisement for the TRCP, yet also insist on defending Rex Rammell's shooting pen fiasco and then can't understand why people don't trust you or the TRCP? I'm afraid that I can't bring myself to see either you or any group that you might support as credible; you're just dancing all over the ethical map and I'm afraid that the TRCP might just be a front for doing the same.
Comment By Craig Moore, 12-18-06Mike, your distortions are gross. You say I defend Rammell when I wrote on another discussion: "Personally, I don't pay hunt. I don't like that farms and ranches go this route for well-heeled clientele. But because I oppose it doesn't mean that it should be outlawed if the facts of generalized harm don't support it. Do we outlaw commercial hog raising because these animals were once wild? Also, the wild hogs and pigs we have here came from domesticated stock. The door swings both ways on the domesticated --- wild continuum. "
Which, if any of the policy intiatives of the TRCP that you find objectionable?
Responding to your ad hominem attack with the same is not only against the season, but pointless. Merry Christmas! May you recieve wisdom from God's grace.
Now more than ever WILD BUFFALO/BISON need the advocacy of hunters. Right now, Montana has initiated a hunt of bison that leave Yellowstone, yet bison are ecologically extinct in Montana. For this first phase of the "hunt" there's going to be a lot of people w/out any bison to kill simply because there aren't any in the state. Further, with this wildlife species being managed by the Montana Dept. of Livestock - who is also authorizing the "hunt" - we've got a serious conflict of interest and the killing of bison by hunters is currently just another way to keep them out of Montana. There's never a time they are allowed out of the Park w/out being subjected to hazing, capture, slaughter, quarantine, or shooting. Bison need hunters to advocate for HABITAT and for their right to roam in Montana. PLEASE - calling all hunters and outdoors people - Wild Bison need your support!
Comment By Craig Moore, 12-18-06BT, you can find a list here of the publicly owned wild bison herds. http://www.fws.gov/bisonrange/locations.htm
Montana is on the list. In addition there are native tribes and private individuals that have their own herds in Montana.
Todd,
Another thought provoking article ...
While bringing together various "species" groups may serve some good purpose, I notice that only the groups that have been "species specific" or "corporate based" are included at the table.
Right now in Montana, we are in the midst of a so-called bison "hunt" which in actuality is a "border shoot". Here on the west side of the park, there are only 4 buffalo out of the park (all bulls) and they are on privately-owned buffalo-friendly properties on Horse Butte. At the end of this "hunt" perhaps the hunters who have been SKUNKED will join in the call for more public land habit for bison and a major change in bison management. I support hunting and hunters but feel this "shoot" is premature. You don't have any other species being hunted where habitat hasn't FIRST been established. You don't have any other species being MIS-managed by the Montana Department of Livestock (and the other "go-along" agencies who are signatories to the interagency management plan). If the DOL tried these policies on elk in Montana, they could not get away with it because of the power and influence of elk hunters and organizations such as the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. Right now, the ONLY groups I am aware of who are opposing this hunt are the BUFFALO FIELD CAMPAIGN and the GALLATIN WILDLIFE ASSOCIATION.
In the more than 12 years I have lived in Montana and advocated for the buffalo, I have contacted by mail, email and videos major hunting organizations in the state and the response has been almost uniform silence.
Why aren't the hunting groups, particularly the well-established and well-funded ones, calling for a halt to the policies that essentially dupe hunters into believing that you can hunt a species that is not allowed to exist in Montana?
In approving this "hunt", Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks hoped to get hunters interested in the bison management issue. Whether that happens is yet to be seen.
barb abramo
west yellowstone
I just received an email with a link to TRCP's december newsletter. I provide the link for anyone else: http://trcp.brandspringsolutions.com/enews_december06.aspx#news1
The initiatives TRCP gets behind is why I am a proud member.
If hunters and anglers are looking for an organization that truly believes in the North American Model of Wildlife Management and the principles of the Public Trust Doctrine, you need look no further than the Montana Wildlife Federation. MWF is Montana's oldest and largest hunter and angler group. Their volunteer board of directors come from all walks of life with passion and proposes to ensure that the wonderful opportunities we have had are passed on to the next generations. Montana has the best all around public hunting and fishing of any state in the lower 48 and very possibly the world. It is by no coincidence that the MWF’s very active role in this process over the past sixty years is a part of this legacy. I belong to several other sporting groups including TRCP but none of them compare to plain gutsy approach that MWF takes in advocating for public lands and water and public wildlife and fish. Some of the issues we have been involved in are: access to federal and state lands, fighting the continual threat of commercialization of public fish and wildlife, stopping the selling of public lands, sportsmen/landowner relations, hunter’s rights, public access to public fish and wildlife, river recreation management, in-stream flows, water quality, wildlife disease, game farms, stream access, riparian health, habitat security, gun rights, land trades, and conservation easements, just to name a few.
Comment By Gerald Green, 12-21-06It seems we have gotten off the topic here. The history-making event is that a group not traditionally aligned with the usual environmental groups is issuing press releases on roadless areas, energy extraction, habitat protection and using science in land-use decisions.And TRCP's press releases are not all that different from those of NRDC, NWF, LCV and The Wilderness Society in these areas.Thought Todd's point was that these folks representing another constituancy finally have the nerve to organize themselves and publically speak up on these politically "controversial" issues.
Gerald