Sasquatch research team to visit Central Oregon

Bigfoot Is Not Real

By Joseph Friedrichs, 1-18-07

	Caption: This guy believes in Bigfoot

Allow me to cut right to the chase with my stance on the existence of Sasquatch: It doesn’t.

Bigfoot, also known as Sasquatch, is a complete hoax. There are no large, strange, hairy beasts roaming the woods. Well, other than myself and a few others who don’t enjoy shaving. Seriously though, there is no Bigfoot. Forget about it.

I have tried to believe in Bigfoot. I want to. But at the conclusion of all my research, and by using my brain, I now understand Bigfoot is only a myth. A money-making scheme for some. And a topic of conversation for the masses.

That is why it was painful to find out about the next round of “scientists” that will be visiting Central Oregon to hunt for the mythical creature. The Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization (BFRO) has planned a four-day voyage this June into the Cascades with the intent on finding Sasquatch. The public was invited to assist the team for a mere $300 per person. Tragically, the expedition is sold out. Sorry Sasquatch fans, you’ll have to wait until next time. Of course, one can always charge into the wilderness alone to track Bigfoot.

According to the BFRO Website, up to 100 people assist the research team on each hunt. Let’s see, $300 x 100 people…. Not a bad payday for team BFRO.

The reason I speak with such confidence about the non-existence of Bigfoot is because I have been on one of these hunts. On Sept. 22, 2005, the San Francisco-based Searching For Bigfoot team took me deep into the Siskiyou Mountains to find Sasquatch. We packed in tranquilizer guns, motion-activated cameras, night-vision goggles, trip wires and a whole galaxy of GPS systems and radars.

Searching For Bigfoot came to the Southwest corner of Oregon because a truck driver claimed to have spotted Sasquatch several days before. That incident took place at 4 a.m. on a dark, windy stretch of Highway 199. News of the sighting sent the Searching For Bigfoot team into a flurry, hence their arrival less than 60 hours later.

What happened during our cold, long, wet night in the woods is very easy to sum up: nothing.

Two of the motion-activated cameras did go off. Also, some kind of high tech sound-sensing gadget as well. I wanted to explain to the crew that we were in the middle of a wilderness area chock full of deer, bear, squirrels, rodents and dozens of other animal species. Instead, I kept quiet and simply observed the madness.

We didn’t sleep that night. My hostility toward the research team grew more intense with each passing hour. Each pounding drop of rain made me grow more skeptical of what the crew said. I almost wept at one point, but opted to laugh. And in the end, we left with nothing to show but wet clothes and a bad attitude.

The myth of Bigfoot is nothing new to the Pacific Northwest. Indian tribes from centuries ago spoke of the creature, rumored to stand 10-feet tall and weight 1,000 pounds. Hunters, gatherers and hikers have all claimed to encounter, or at least find evidence of Bigfoot. Footprints nearly 2-feet in length have been found in dried mud. Images have been captured on film of unusual-looking animals stomping through the brush.

And I still don’t believe. And I never will.

So good luck this summer team BFRO and the people you have conned into traveling along. I can assure you Bigfoot will not be discovered up there. But keep your eyes open. You never know what you might find.
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I would have agreed with you prior to 2004. That's when one of my motion sensored game cameras captured this image. It's fuzzy, low resolution...and shows several details if you will take the time to study the image, or you can take a quick glance and refuse to learn anything on a subject you know nothing about:
http://www.bigfootphoto.net/gallery/enhancedscan.php

You are basically a simple dingbat. Merely because you had no luck (why should you?) on two trips is meaningless.

To see Bigfoot for real, visit http://www.beckjord.com/bigfoot/septexpedition.html

EB

Correction - one trip.

You really think Bigfoot comes out whenever you want it to?

BONK!

The absence of evidence is clearly not evidence of absence.

So, you joined a group of guys with high-tech gadgets out hunting one rainy night in Oregon. It turns out that you were the invaders in the home of these woodland animals. For certain all of the critters in the vicinity knew where you were the whole time and were either in hiding or ran off. During your night in the woods, did you see any bear, mountain lions, bobcat, lynx or the other dozen or so animals that you do believe exist? The creatures that are too dumb to stay away from people-- and here I would suggest deer, squirrels, raccoons and other game animals-- can be hunted, found and killed more easily. Predatory animals-- and here I would include Bigfoot creaturers-- survive by remaining hidden in their natural habitats.

Regarding the elusive species of creatures popularly known as Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Wood Boogers or Skunk Apes here in North America, we are dealing with an animal that has the intelligence, speed and natural camouflage to hide from and avoid people-- especially guys stalking critters in the woods at night who are acting like hunters.

If it was any easier to prove their existence, it would have been done already.

"Logic. What do they teach in schools these days?" (Prof. Diggory, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe)

We should promote the Bigfoot idea because it gets Bigfoot hunters and journalists crazy enough to follow them away from the population centers where they might do some serious damage.

Oh my god! Bigfoot looks exactly like my Fallopian tubes! (At least, the image xjay posted sure looks like a scoped photo I had taken a few years back...)

Yeah I guess Bigfoot Doesnt exsist??? Do albino Humans Exsist???how many have you persoanlly met??? You go out searching one cold dark wet night and sure BF doesnt exsist. How many Deer.bear,Cougar,Pig have you ((HUNTED)) Knowing what to look for when stalking your prey.. Well i Guess when you go fishing, because you you skunked ((FISH )) dont exsit either...Well i made my point. Hoooah!!!! RLTW

I love the pictures sent in by Xjay and Erick. They just confirm what Mr. Friedrichs says in his article- Bigfoot is only a myth. And that is okay if he is a myth it gives alot of people a way to enjoy the great outdoors.

I think you ought to read this:

t all started for me several years ago on a trip i took with other firefighters. We went down to the Kiamichi Mountains in southeast Oklahoma for a few days to ride four wheelers and rent a cabin. While there, there was a local logging company that reported bigfoot footprints on one of their logging roads. So i spent most of my time off the atv exploring the woods looking for signs that i had researched on the computer (thats why i cant get any firemen to take another trip with me, they want to ride and i want to explore). One night right at dusk, we got off our atv's and walked down the side of a mountain, we were about 30 yds apart. When we spooked something from behind a boulder that ran close to me through briars and brambles and it sounded like a freight train running away. Prior to that, up by the atvs on a logging road, i had spent about thirty minutes doing tree knocks and howls/calls. So i assume whatever we spooked was on its way up to visit us. So i started talking to some of the locals and even a retired forestry worker and knew that they believed there were bigfoots in those mountains. So i made that my primary research area and have been back there many times, sometimes alone twenty feet up in a tree. I've had many things happen in that area that kept me coming back.

That following year, Honobia, Oklahoma had its first annual Bigfoot Festival. I was determined to go there and meet someone who i could research with. I arrived on the last day of the festival and was going to a spot north of town where i had left fruit out the month before to check it. On the way there, there was a family camping on a logging road about three hundred yards from i had stayed in a tree the month before. So i stopped and talked to them. The gentleman and i became friends and i learned that he had been researching for several years from the Chickisaw park area in southcentral Oklahoma. We met up once again south of Honobia for a few days trying different experiments and got a fleeting glimpse of a bipedal animal on video. This was my actual first sighting. A few days later i went to my friends area in the Chickisaw park. It was in February so the weather was cool. My friend couldnt meet me there the first night, so i went into the park alone. The campsite number was 30, it was along Rock Creek, which runs into Arbuckle lake. There were absolutely no other campers in the campground that night. I set up my tent and all my food and baits on the table, and went into town to get something to eat for myself. When i returned, i never even got out of my truck. I pulled up next to my tent with the rear of my truck pointed toward the creek. I taped blankets over all of my windows and earlier had taped a parabolic microphone on top of my truck pointing toward the creek with the cord running into the cab with a headset, it was about seven p.m. Now i had a recorder attached to my parabolic mic, but it was a micro cassett recorder with only a thirty minute cassett. The bad thing about my recorder is that it would not shut off when it reached the end of the tape so i was flipping tapes over before they completely ran out and also taping over uneventful happenings when i would hear something occur.

That night there was a full moon and the wind was blowing like crazy. I could actually hear through the mic better than it was recording. It seemed to pick up a lot of the wind sounds. Around ten p.m. i started hearing movements through the leaves in the park, just the sound of something walking through the leaves. This probably went on for an hour, then all of the sudden whatever was walking crossed one of the rock paths that separates campsites. Clearly, i heard what sounded like a stick being drug through the rocks (gravel). Since this was the only sound i heard, i'm listening to it intently, so i would hear periods of bipedal movement through leaves, followed by a stick dragging through gravel as it crossed from one campsite to another.

Now in each one of these campsites is a metal post about eight foot tall for holding lanterns. Occasionally, whatever was walking through the park would give these metal posts a whack with its stick. I even heard an occasional metal trash can lid being removed. Eventually, whatever it was must have seen my campsite because i had been hearing nonstop movement for upwards of two hours at that point, then it just stopped. Then every few minutes, i would hear slight movement then it would stop again. It was a good ten/fifteen minutes when it did a tree knock and shortly after that i heard sloshing coming across rock creek. It sounded like one or two more were coming. Since my microphone was pointed behind my truck, i knew that from the rear of my truck was where they were at. i would part the blankets and look down my side mirror where i had a good view of the woods along the creek, so i kept watching. I heard a loud owl call that ended in a pigeon coo and i could tell they were somewhere behind my truck. Finally i saw movement in the treeline where something stepped out from behind a tree and then ducked back behind it. At that point, I'm thinking theres only one bigfoot there. All this time the owl calls are coming at a regular pace. There had to have been ten to fifteen owl calls within a couple of minutes. Next thing i know, two bigfoots bust out of the woods running up to the back of my truck.

I had a clear view of the big one, stooped over and running with a side to side motion, he was bumping shoulders with the one running alongside him. It almost seemed as though they were racing to get to my truck. The thirty minutes prior to this they convinced themselves it was safe to enter my campsite. Well the big one grabbed the racks on the back of my truck and looked like he was stepping around to my side (the drivers side) of the truck, that is where i got my full body view of this animal. But my anxiety level was maxed at this point because i thought he was coming down to look in my window. So i closed my blankets and tried to sink into my seat, but my heart was beating so hard, i pulled my back off the seat because i was afraid they would feel my heart beat through the metal of the truck. However, it didnt come down the side of my truck because i felt the back end of my truck immediately dropped about six to eight inches and i truly thought they were in the bed of my truck (i didnt learn til morning that they were only on the bumper).

I had lots of equipment in the back of my truck, a small honda quiet generator, big tupper ware containers of camping equipment, and two one pound propane cylinders. I heard them moving stuff around in the back of my truck while i just sat there frozen. The reason i was afraid to move is because i fully expected them to move around to the front of my truck. I had a video recorder ready to record and i was going to hit my headlights, but when i thought they were in the bed, i had visions of them climbing on the cab and caving in my truck. Therefore the only moving i did was to reach for the key in the ignition. I thought i would have to start it up and take off. Now remember, i am tape recording most of everything thats going on. The owl sounds and the metal posts being hit with a stick were recorded nicely. I also heard them vocalizing in the woods afterwards, but this didnt pick up on the recorder, as i said, it was windy and i would hate to think i recorded over anything useful by flipping a tape over too soon.

While rummaging through the back of my truck, they accidentally clinked the two propane tanks together and stopped all other movement, and concentrated solely on those tanks. I heard them clink them together a couple more times, then slowly, they eventually left the area. But i still sat there listening, never knowing how close they might still have been. By that time it must have been about one or two a.m. At around four or five a.m., i heard more bipedal walking through leaves making its way back to my campsite. Now mind you, i have still not left my truck so my campsite was left just how they left it. Whatever was working its way back to my campsite sounded like it had a young one with it because something kept screaming, sounding like it could have been a female with a very young one throwing a temper tantrum. They came all the way back into my campsite and i heard them eating fruit off the table i had set up for bait the previous day. I was still hoping something would move in front of my truck for a video, but this did not happen. Eventually the second visitors left and it was only an hour or so before daybreak.

As soon as it got light, i got out of the truck, and went to look around. My generator was turned over and the two propane tanks were missing and there were two dusty smudge marks on the bumper. The reason the propane tanks are significant, is because i thought way in the distance after they left my truck i heard metal bangings which could have been my tanks (now my friend from the area has heard what sounded like drums in the woods and later found a five gallon bucket and a long handle screw driver, so possibly they swipe things out of the back of trucks).

Now the fruit i had on the table which consisted of melons, canteloupe, etc., some of it had been eaten and one had a bite mark out of it. It looked like there were two small muddy handprints on the edge of the table and one of the apples had been rolled over to that spot and it looked like something gnawed on it all the way around but never took an actual bite out of it, thats why i thought it was a young bigfoot with a parent. I have tried to give all the details i can remember, ask any questions if you like. Now after seeing one, my curiosity has turned to obsession lol.
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Bigfoot Forums

Odds are you will not see one again.

But lucky you saw them once.

http://www.bigfoot.org

So we got a photo of a myth?

:-)

My basic point is that Joe the goony monster has to be absurd to EXPECT to see Bigfoot on his ONLY night out.

BONK!

eb

Sasquatch is real. If you don't think so you haven't really done any research. Anyone that goes with Matt Moneymaker hoping to see one is actually only going on a very expensive camping trip. Accept it for what it is.

And I'm sorry Bigfoot picture guy. You seem like a really nice guy and all (judging from the Honobia Bigfoot festival DVD) but your picture of a supposed sasquatch and baby is too blurry to prove anything. Not even worth the electricity it takes to run that website you have going.

Thanks for checking out the site anyway. Not even a perfectly clear photo will prove the existence of these creatures. Science will require a body. My web-site is not meant to prove a thing to anyone. For those who have had an encounter with a Bigfoot, the site probably validates that experience for them.

The game cam pic will stand on its own. Some can see it for what it is, and some honestly can't...and some pretend not to see it for various reasons. It still doesn't prove a thing to anyone except myself because I placed the cameras out there. There's a lot more to my experience than just placing a few game cameras out near the woods to see what may happen, but my word against yours doesn't prove anything either.

It would be great if I could direct you to a spot where you could find out for yourself that one or more large unknown primates are moving around your position, but even if this little perfect example could take place, nothing would be proven to anyone but you. All the articles you could possibly write about your encounter would not be accepted as proof of anything.

Thanks for letting me off the hook so gently. Since I'm paying for the electricity I guess the site stays up, lol. I'm sure you yourself are a nice guy too.

You guys don't fool me for a second. The instant that you get some proof of his (their) existence, they will be declared an endangered and protected species and you'll all be arguing over the fate of poor Johnny Spoiledmeat, the rancher, logger, farmer, snowmobiler, outfitter, or whatever who loses $8.15 worth of annual income due to the protective restrictions that then get placed on the 817 acres of remote habitat that turn out to constitute the only place where this hairy thing can get it on.

I personally don't think it will be possible to protect these creatures by setting land aside. There is no way to keep them on a certain parcel of land. There are arguments about this already, but all the reports that come in each year seem to indicate that Bigfoot habitat can be found almost anywhere and these creatures often venture near populated areas.

Other than making it against the law to hunt, harm or harass these creatures, there really isn't anything further that can be done. By Bigfoot being "discovered" protection can then be afforded them. Our awarness of them will make it possible to learn more about them, and help keep both man and Bigfoot safe from each other. That's my take anyway.

In regards to Mike McCaslin's comment, where are the photos of these miniature bigfoots handprints and the nibbled fruits? I am interested in the proof of this experience.

Hey guys, this is a space-time creature and it does not need any
land nor special protection.

We cannot hurt them, nor capture one.

I've seen small bf footprints, and nibbled fruit. I do not need to
see photos as proof.

Visit http://www.beckjord.com/bigfoot

EB

This article only touches the beginning of why BF doesn't exist. There is NO bigfoot people. there is NO fossil record. There is no proof worth a damn. Get over it. Sure, it's fun to think "what if?" I gotcha. No prob. But leave it there in fantasy land. It isn't real.

Right on sista!! BF died when Hary and the Hendersons died!

Yes you are right. We humans have everything down.

The fossil record we have for ourselves could more accurately be described as a fossil record for Sasquatch. They're all hominid bones!

Go eat a burger. Smother it in some margarine while your at it. It's so good for you. There's no way the government would lie to us.

I'm sure you know about this too.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Terrorstorm&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=911+mysteries&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=loosechange&hl=en

Jason, do you know what a straw man argument is?

"To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is to create a position that is easy to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent." (source Wikipedia)

You laughably tied this when you said, "Yes you are right. We humans have everything down." See, you silly rabbit, I never said any such thing. This means your rebuttal to that statement is only a rebuttal to yourself. It shows how weak your argument for a big hairy daddy in the woods really is. He doesn't exist, pooky.

Jason says ~"They're all hominid bones!"

Are you serious? All bones have calcium too. Not EVEN Bigfoot believers have had the utter ignorance to claim that human bones are from sasquatch/bigfoot. You, my son, need to do what every parent tries to dissuade their kids from doing. Stop reading fantasy crap and instead start an immediate addiction to online gaming.

Jason says ~ "There's no way the government would lie to us." - written with obvious sarcasm.

Yet another straw man argument. No one claimed any such thing.

Please purchase World Of Warcraft post haste.

Lucky for you I'm spending way too much time at the computer today. Darlin' I've done lot's of research on many different topics. Watch the videos I've posted and get back to me when your brainwashed mind is freed. You'll thank me later. As far as the fossil statement you are believing mainstream scientific dogma. Stop living in a lie. To state there is no fossil record of these things is ridiculous. All the fossils we have of our own supposed pre-history do not even fill up half of a tennis court. And guess what? They are all just different hominid skeletons that mainstream science uses to try to try to reaffirm their crumbling Darwinian ideology. I suggest you look into some of Llyod Pye's work. http://www.lloydpye.com/ Maybe pick up his video for a quick fix. I'm not saying he has all the answers but he will make you rethink what you believe you know about evolution.

So get into those movies I posted and get on back to me ya hear?

Logial is right. Why are all the proponents of Bigfoot acting like someone who says it doesn't exist is the same as someone who is having their religion attacked?? It's because people who believe in things without proof (Bigfoot/Nessie) are the same as those who believe in Gods who cannot be proven. You are all gullible. Some of you have good intentions sure, but gullible just the same.

Your anger gives it away. Why would you care if someone didn't believe in Bigfoot if not for the reason that it threatens your sense of belief system (which religions are)?

If your position that Bigfoot is real is purely based on evidence, why get upset? If I detailed the evidence of how the sun gives the earth light and warmth, but you laughed and claimed I was incredibly wrong and misled, would I get pissed? Not at all. I would grin, pat you on the head and walk away.

Is that what you Bigfoot believers are doing? Nope. Wonder why...

LOL! Jason, I really feel bad for you. Below is what Lloyde thinks. And THIS is whi ANYone with an ounce of a brain should listen to?? lol!

"A number of the supposedly unanswered mysteries that Pye poses in his book Everything You Know Is Wrong have also been criticised. For example:

Pye claims "humans use only about 10% of our massively supercharged brains". This is a long standing myth originating in phrenology[6]. Brain imaging methods appear to refute the 10% brain use statement. For example, positron emission tomography (PET) scans show that much of the brain is active during many different tasks[7]. See human brain, popular misconceptions.
Pye claims that human genes are "only 150,000 to 200,000 years old". In fact, human genes such as those encoding histones are common to all eukaryotes and identical to many other primates' histone genes, and are more than 1.8 billion years old.
Pye claims that "the Earth is minus a huge part of its crust, the part where the oceans are". There is in fact crust under the oceans, as a simple understanding of geology will show. See oceanic crust.
Pye claims that "Earth's moon is ... extraordinarily outsized relative to other moons". In fact, Earth's moon has a diameter of only around 3500 km, while Titan has a diameter of 5,150 km and Ganymede 5,262 km. Earth's moon is also not the largest comparing moon diameters with that of the parent planet, because Pluto was considered a planet at the time: the diameter of Earth's moon is equal to 27% the diameter of Earth, while the diameter of Pluto's moon Charon (1,207 km) is 51% the diameter of Pluto (2,390 km). "

The guy attracks the gullible. If he could, he would have this to say..."WELCOME Jason! I've been expecting you!"

I think most of the irritation you sense from us is because that the people that so easily say Bigfoot doesn't exist have never bothered to even look into it. When's the last time you even looked up in to the sky? You think life is whatever you encounter in your day today activities. Go to work, eat at Jack in the Box, watch American Idol. Of course there is no bigfoot because you've never seen one on your way to Costco.

Logical, those are all valid points. Many of which I agree with. But he will have you riveted to the screen as he explains why our fossil record doesn't make sense.

Now do not reply again until you watch the videos I posted.

I asked you to get back to me after the deprograming. Otherwise I'm just wasting time and electricity over here.

Last week my daughter claimed that the Easter Bunny and Santa were one and the same - that Santa just changes costume now and then. I tried to explaing the faulty premise of her argument (that neither exists), but it was lost on her.

Welcome to your God Jason. LOLlloyde Pye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Pye

Maybe you can explain to me what "explaing" means.

Watch the movies nerd!

LOL! THAT's the best you can do - bringing up a freaking typo? lol! What a maroon.

I watched your "movies" and to be honest they were intellectually dishonest and blatantly aimed at the gullible. This is where you came in.

*yawn*

You are a dyed in the wool “believer”, just as if you were defending your religion. Logic? You are immune to it. And you wear that immunity like a badge of honor. You sit at your screen defending your nonsensical stance to the end, never realizing you could be wrong, and are. To admit that you are wrong, that, incredibly and astoundingly, a huge undiscovered primate with no fossil record and no evidence for existence roams our woods, would shatter your precious world-view.

Hey. Hun? It ain’t real. Except it.

You watched six hours of movies in 35 minutes huh? Now there's some fiction for you. What were they each about?

So back on topic since your obviously more interested in the Easter Bunny than enlightenment. Which documentaries have you watched concerning the Sasquatch phenomenon? Which books on Sasquatch have you read? I suppose we may have to get someone from outside America to answer this one. Unless TV Guide had a Special Sasquatch edition lately. I suspect the answer to both of my questions is "none".

Here read this. (If your attention span allows it). Just kidding around of course "logical". You seem like one of the smart ones.

Media Article # 303

Sunday, February 20, 2000

Fingerprint Expert Tries To Debunk Bigfoot - Reaches Opposite Conclusion

The HoustonChronicle.com

CONROE -- Jimmy Chilcutt is not someone most people would associate with the kind of wild, unsubstantiated stories that show up in supermarket tabloids.

Chilcutt, 54, is skeptical by nature. His job as a fingerprint technician at the Conroe Police Department requires hard-nosed judgments and painstaking attention to detail.
He is highly regarded by agents of the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, and state and local law enforcement agencies because of his innovative techniques and ability to find fingerprints where others fail.

But in doing what comes naturally -- being careful and thorough -- he ended up rocking his own skepticism about one of the most sensational tales that routinely show up in the tabloids.

Chilcutt's quest to squeeze more information out of fingerprints led him to develop a rare expertise in nonhuman primate prints. He tried to use his special knowledge to debunk alleged evidence of Bigfoot, also known as Sasquatch.

But his examination of alleged Bigfoot footprint castings didn't lead to the conclusion he had expected. He now believes that -- while some of them are fakes -- some are the genuine prints of a reclusive animal that has yet to be documented and studied.

The path to Chilcutt's unusual investigation began with an idea he had in 1995. "If I could look at fingerprints and could tell the sex, gender and race, I'd be way ahead," he recalled. He began examining fingerprints to determine whether there were differences based on race or sex.

"But every time I thought I had it right, I'd be wrong," Chilcutt said.

It finally occurred to him that the key to understanding human fingerprints could lie in nonhuman primates.

"If Darwin was correct, if we did in fact evolve, we should be able to study primate prints," Chilcutt reasoned.

Primates are members of the order of mammals that includes humans, great apes, monkeys and lemurs. Chilcutt said he hoped to find primordial characteristics that would unlock hidden information in human fingerprints. First, he had to convince a zoo or a research center to allow him to take fingerprints. "It was hard to find somebody who would let you fingerprint their monkey," he said.

After being rebuffed about 25 times over three months, he called Ken Glander, director of the Duke University Primate Center in Durham, N.C.

"At first I wasn't sure that it wasn't one of my friends playing a joke on me," Glander said about his initial reaction. "But it didn't take long talking to him to realize that this was a legitimate request."

Impressed by Chilcutt's expertise, Glander offered prints from his collection of lemurs. But Chilcutt was primarily interested in apes, so Glander steered him to the Yerkes Regional Primate Center at Emory University in Atlanta. Kaylee Summerville, occupational health program coordinator at Yerkes, said Chilcutt's request was received with caution.

"We've never had one like it before or since," she said. "It was unusual, but in the study of primates we get unusual requests sometimes."

After checking Chilcutt's credentials, the center arranged for him to take prints of apes at the Atlanta zoo during an annual medical checkup, while the apes were anesthetized.

Since then, Chilcutt has amassed a collection of about 1,000 nonhuman primate prints.

"That is a fantastic, incredible sample size," Glander said. "I've been working with primates for 30 years. I started in 1970. I have about 350 prints." He said there are only about four or five researchers working with nonhuman fingerprints. "All are biologists," Glander said. "We don't have fingerprint expertise."

Chilcutt studied the primate prints and discovered characteristics that distinguish different species and traits within species. He said he has become an expert on primate prints through long study of his samples, although he is not yet able to decipher human fingerprints.

But an opportunity arose in December 1998 to put his rare knowledge to use. He was at his home in Montgomery reading a book one evening, barely paying attention to a TV program about Bigfoot.

His interest was piqued, however, when he heard the term "dermal ridges," a reference to fingerprints. He listened closely as Jeff Meldrum, associate professor of anatomy at Idaho State University, held a casting of a supposed Bigfoot footprint and pointed to what appeared to be the loops and whorls of prints.

Believing he could determine the authenticity of the prints, Chilcutt phoned Meldrum, a specialist in primate anatomy and locomotion.

"If there is a Sasquatch, only a handful of people in the world know the difference between a primate and a human print," Chilcutt said. Meldrum said he was delighted to find someone who could help authenticate his collection of about 100 castings of supposed Bigfoot footprints.

A skeptical Chilcutt arrived in Pocatello, Idaho, last April and began studying the collection. He first examined the casting Meldrum had shown on TV and quickly determined it to be a fake. The toeprints were actually human fingerprints.

Meldrum turned him loose on the entire collection. "What I actually found surprised even me," Chilcutt said. The print ridges on the bottoms of five castings -- which were taken at different times and locations -- flowed lengthwise along the foot, unlike human prints, which flow from side to side, he said. "No way do human footprints do that -- never, ever.

"The skeptic in me had to believe that (all of the prints were from) the same species of animal," Chilcutt said. "I believe that this is an animal in the Pacific Northwest that we have never documented."

Meldrum, for whom the study of Bigfoot prints is a sideline, believes it's a legitimate, scientific inquiry.

"A misconception is often perpetrated that this should be relegated to the tabloids," he said. "The question is, what made the tracks? They are there; that is indisputable. It's either a hoax or the track of a living animal."

"Officer Chilcutt has brought his expertise to that question. We will never know for sure until a specimen is collected. Until then, it's unscientific, in my opinion, to dismiss this evidence without giving it an airing."

Glander, who was casually acquainted with Meldrum when Meldrum taught briefly at Duke, said: "Do I believe in Bigfoot? I don't know, but I think it's one of those things that is interesting and intriguing."

Glander likened Meldrum's research to his own study of lemurs in Madagascar, where he hopes to find a species of lemur believed to be extinct. "Does that make me a crackpot? I don't think so."

"Welcome to your God Jason"

And for the record - I only worship at the alter of Frank.
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Jason said~ "Which documentaries have you watched concerning the Sasquatch phenomenon? Which books on Sasquatch have you read?"

When you have properly addressed my link,( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Pye ) I will respond.

"There is little mainstream scientific support for Pye's claims"

Key word "mainstream".

I'm not sure what it is that you want me to say about your link. It contains no new revelations for me. I've read his book, I've watched his presentation on the subject, I've emailed back and fourth with him on several occasions. Each occasion ten times more enjoyable than these exchanges. Free your mind and your heart will follow. I suspect you've been fairly well educated in MAINSTREAM government schools. You were trained to absorb everything they said like a sponge. Too bad they no longer teach critical thinking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking
We can't afford to have any dissidents members of our NEW WORLD ORDER.

And remember 2+2=5 It always has.

forth!

Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA

Do civilizations of advanced human beings exist scattered in the Galaxy?

by John Stokes



Artistic representation from Eyewitness testimony of Asket, the extraterrestrial human woman, reference: http://www.gaiaguys.net

A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.

The non-coding sequences are common to all living organisms on Earth, from moulds to fish to humans. In human DNA, they constitute larger part of the total genome, says Prof. Sam Chang, the group leader. Non-coding sequences, originally known as "junk DNA", were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery. The overwhelming majority of Human DNA is “Off-world” in origin. The apparent “extraterrestrial junk genes” merely “enjoy the ride” with hard working active genes, passed from generation to generation.

After comprehensive analysis with the assistance of other scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians, and other learned scholars, Professor Chang had wondered if the apparently “junk Human DNA” was created by some kind of “extraterrestrial programmer”. The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, “have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs.”

Professor Chang further stipulates that "Our hypothesis is that a higher extraterrestrial life form was engaged in creating new life and planting it on various planets. Earth is just one of them. Perhaps, after programming, our creators grow us the same way we grow bacteria in Petri dishes. We can’t know their motives - whether it was a scientific experiment, or a way of preparing new planets for colonization, or is it long time ongoing business of seedling life in the universe.”

Professor Chang further indicates that “If we think about it in our human terms, the apparent “extraterrestrial programmers” were most probably working on “one big code” consisting of several projects, and the projects should have produced various life forms for various planets. They have been also trying various solutions. They wrote “the big code“, executed it, did not like some function, changed them or added new one, executed again, made more improvements, tried again and again.”

Professor Chang’s team of researchers furthermore concludes that, “The apparent “extraterrestrial programmers” may have been ordered to cut all their idealistic plans for the future when they concentrated on the “Earth project” to meet the pressing deadline. Very likely in an apparent rush, the “extraterrestrial programmers” may have cut down drastically on big code and delivered basic program intended for Earth.“

Professor Chang is only one of many scientists and other researchers who have discovered extraterrestrial origins to Humanity.


Human Genome Project Coordinators find absolute proof of Extraterrestrial contact with 'Earth humans' via DNA evidence.


Professor Chang and his research colleagues show that apparent “extraterrestrial programming” gaps in DNA sequencing precipitated by a hypothesized rush to create human life on Earth presented humankind with illogical growth of mass of cells we know as cancer."

Professor Chang further indicates that “What we see in our DNA is a program consisting of two versions, a big code and basic code.” Mr. Chang then affirms that the “First fact is, the complete ‘program’ was positively not written on Earth; that is now a verified fact. The second fact is, that genes by themselves are not enough to explain evolution; there must be something more in ‘the game‘.”

“Soon or later”, Professor Chang says “we have to come to grips with the unbelievable notion that every life on Earth carries genetic code for his extraterrestrial cousin and that evolution is not what we think it is.”

Human Genome Project Discovery Implications associated with “Human-looking Extraterrestrials”

The implications of these scientific finds would reinforce claims by other scientists and observers of having contact with ‘off-world' human looking extraterrestrials.

The ‘off-world' human looking extraterrestrial have been claimed to have provided some of the genetic material for human evolution, and that many of these extraterrestrials have allowed some of their personnel to incarnate as ‘star seeds' on Earth in human families. These “star seeds“, “star children” or “star people” are described by Brad and Francie Steiger as individuals whose ‘souls' were formally incarnated on the worlds of other star systems and then traveled to Earth and decided to incarnate here in order to “boost” the spiritual evolutionary development of humanity. Most of humanity would consider this group of extraterrestrials to be ‘benevolent' as described by ‘contactees' such as George Adamski, Orfeo Angelucci, George Van Tassell, Howard Menger, Paul Villa, Billy Meier and Alex Collier who each explain the nature of their voluntary interactions with these human looking extraterrestrials. These “contactees” often provide physical evidence in the form of photographs, film and/or witnesses of their contacts with extraterrestrial races. The most extensively documented and researched contactee is Eduard ‘Billy' Meier who provided much physical evidence for investigators.

Representations concerning ‘Ancient astronauts’

Indeed, ‘ancient astronaut’ writers believe that a race of intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited and/or colonised Earth in the remote past, whereupon they upgraded the primitive hominid Homo erectus by means of genetic engineering to create the human race as we know it: Homo sapiens.

Evidence for this idea is found (a) in the improbability of Homo sapiens emerging so suddenly, according to the principles of orthodox Darwinism; and (b) in the myths of ancient civilisations which describe human-like gods coming down from the heavens and creating mankind ‘in their own image’.Homo sapiens is thus regarded as a hybrid being, incorporating a mix of terrestrial genes from Homo erectus and extraterrestrial genes from an ascribed “race of the gods“.

Prior to the modern age of space travel and genetics, this theory for the origins of humankind could not have been conceived. And even now, in the 21st century, there are many people who would regard it as science fiction. However, in the light of the problems with the orthodox theory of human evolution, the idea of a genetic intervention by an intelligent human-like species (who themselves evolved on another planet over a more credible time frame) does require to be taken seriously as a potential solution to the mystery.

The most famous exponents of the ancient astronaut intervention are the Swiss writer Erich von Daniken and the American writer Zecharia Sitchin. The latter, in particular, has argued the case in great detail.

Representation by academics from “Exopolitics” groups

Dr. Micheal E. Salla is one of the founders of an Exopolitics movement which seeks an open and informed dialogue on, and with, Extraterrestrials, toward the affirmation of “global democracy” and the quality-of-living of humankind as socially responsible beings in the Universe. Dr. Salla indicates that “There are an extensive number of extraterrestrial races known [by various research institutions and agencies] to be currently interacting with Earth and the human population.

Dr. Salla, is also the author of Exopolitics: Political Implications of the Extraterrestrial Presence (Dandelion Books, 2004). He has held full time academic appointments at the Australian National University, and American University, Washington DC. He has a Ph.D. in Government from the University of Queensland, Australia. During his professional academic career, he was best known for organizing a series of citizen diplomacy initiatives for the East Timor conflict funded by U.S. Institute of Peace and the Ford Foundation. He is also the Founder of the Exopolitics Institute ; and Chief Editor of the ‘Exopolitics Journal’ and Convener of the “Extraterrestrial Civilizations and World Peace Conference.”

In a 1998 interview, Clifford Stone, a retired U.S. army Sergeant who served in the U.S. Army for 22 years and allegedly participated in operations to retrieve crashed extraterrestrial ships and extraterrestrial biological entities (EBE’s), revealed there were a variety of extraterrestrial races known [by various institutions and agencies]”. Dr. Salla further elaborates that “The most compelling testimonies on the different extraterrestrial races comes from ‘whistleblowers’ such as Sergeant Stone; and also ‘contactees’ who have had direct physical contact with extraterrestrials and communicated with them.”

Dr. Salla further notes that Master Sergeant Bob Dean had a twenty seven year distinguished career in very senior areas of the military indicates that among the know extraterrestrials one group “looked so much like us they could sit next to you on a plane or in a restaurant and you'd never know the difference."

Apparently “Human extraterrestrial races can easily integrate with human society in the manner described by Dean and others where they can be indistinguishable from the rest of humanity.” Dr. Salla corroborates.

According to Alex Collier who claims to be a “contactee“, “a variety of extraterrestrial races have provided genetic material for the ‘human experiment‘. “ Alex Collier indicates that “Earth humans” are “a product of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, and are possessors of a vast gene pool consisting of many different racial memory banks, also consisting of at least 22 different races.”

Alleged Human ET efforts to promote the unity of humanity through religious spirituality

Alex Collier further claims that constituents of “Human ETs” seek to “ensure that global humanity evolves in a responsible way without endangering both itself and the greater galactic community of which it is part. “ Exopolitics groups and independent contactees also indicate that constituents of “Human ETs” seek to “uplift human consciousness and to promote the unity of religion.”

Alex Colliers alleged contact with ETs suggest that fundamentalist messages in from Christianity to Judaism to Islam, and other institutionalized religions, as well as outright apparent ‘cult’ groups, have been specifically placed by “hostile elements” to manipulate and control humankind.

Jesus, who many groups allege was a “Human ET” sought to inspire the social consciousness of humankind toward unity, and not to create a “Christian religion”, with its sexually repressive as well as homophobic undertones, which also have been used for the execution of racism, and to legitimate atrocities like the ‘slave trade‘.

ETs who allegedly contacted Alex Collier, also further allegedly stipulate that Jesus did in fact live; and lived out the rest of his life in Massada; and that Jesus was only crucified through the religious doctrine, and myth-making associated with ‘the palms‘.

As far as the “saviour scenario” is concerned, for example, Alex Collier was allegedly told by ETs that it has been put into our belief systems to “disempower us.” The saviour scenario within the dogma of institutionalized religions legitimate the creation of an elite-driven oppressive power structure who appoint themselves as “judgers of morality“. These religious elites have historically used their self-appointed roles to execute a comprehensive system of social controls that complement their joint pursuit of greed-oriented self-aggrandizement with other elites from government to business enterprises.

The alleged efforts of socially progressive Human ETs to inspire the affirmation of the quality-of-living of ‘Earth Humans’ through spiritual and other “emissaries”, have been undermined by the efforts of “capitalists” to exploit such alleged initiatives in the pursuit of an oppressive agenda of greed and fascistic power.

Constituents of Human ETs allegedly seek to “help humanity find freedom from oppressive structures through education and consciousness raising.”

Allegations of “Human ET” encounters on Earth

In Dr. Salla’s article “Extraterrestrials Among Us” published in October 2006, he alleges that, “There is startling evidence from a number of independent sources that ‘human looking’ extraterrestrial visitors have integrated with and lived in major population centres up until recently, and this is known by a select number of institutions.

Aside from whistleblower testimonies, like Sergeant Major Robert Dean, a number of private individuals claim to have encountered extraterrestrials posing as ordinary citizens in major cities around the planet.

George Adamski was the first to write about extraterrestrials secretly living among the human population. In his second non-fiction book describing his extraterrestrial contact experiences, “Inside the Flying Saucers“, Adamski discussed how human looking extraterrestrials had established a presence among the human population. “They apparently looked so much like us”, Dr. Salla notes “that they could get jobs, lived in neighbourhoods, drove cars, and could blend in easily with the human population.”

Dr. Salla further notes that “Adamski wrote about how they contacted him to set up meetings that led to his famous flights aboard extraterrestrial vehicles.” But as Dr. Salla explains “While controversy over Adamski’s contact experiences and his credibility continues, Adamski’s UFO sightings and contacts with extraterrestrials were supported by an impressive collection of witnesses, photographs and films that a number of independent investigators concluded were not hoaxes.”

Dr. Salla additionally stipulates that “Adamski’s testimony offers important insights into how extraterrestrials may be living incognito among the human population. After discussing the Adamski case and the strongest evidence supporting it, Dr. Salla in that article further discusses other contactees similarly claiming to have encountered extraterrestrials acting like ordinary citizens. Finally, Dr. Salla in “Extraterrestrials Among Us” examines the official testimony of a number of whistleblowers concerning knowledge that extraterrestrials live among ordinary Earth-bound individuals.

Contact Testimonies of ‘Extraterrestrials Among Us’

Adamski’s famous “Desert Center” meeting with an extraterrestrial emerging from a ‘scout ship’ on November 20, 1952 was apparently seen by six witnesses who signed affidavits confirming Adamski’s version of events in his subsequent book, The Flying Saucers have Landed (1953). In fact, four of the witnesses immediately reported what had happened to a nearby newspaper, the Phoenix Gazette,that published a story on November 24 featuring photos and sketches. The Desert Center encounter was among those of Adamski’s claims regarding extraterrestrial contact that, according to UFO researcher Timothy Good, were “accurately reported,” and “sensible and verifiable”, as footnotes by Dr. Salla. Given the clear supporting evidence supporting Adamski’s first meeting with an extraterrestrial traveling in a scout craft, it is worth examining closely his alleged subsequent meetings with extraterrestrials living on Earth.

In the first chapter of Inside the Flying Saucers, Dr. Salla re-visits Adamski’s testimony of his meeting with two extraterrestrials while he was sitting in the lobby of a Los Angeles Hotel on February 18, 1953.

“I looked at my wrist watch and saw that it said ten-thirty. The lateness of the hour, with still nothing of extraordinary significance having taken place, sent a wave of disappointment through me. And just at this moment of depression, two men approached, one of whom addressed me by name. Both were complete strangers, but there was no hesitancy in their manner as they came forward, and nothing in their appearance to indicate that they were other than average young businessmen… I noted that both men were well proportioned. One was slightly over six feet and looked to be in his early thirties. His complexion was ruddy, his eyes dark brown, with the kind of sparkle that suggests great enjoyment of life. His gaze was extraordinarily penetrating. His black hair waved and was cut according to our style. He wore a dark brown business suit but no hat. The shorter man looked younger and I judged his height to be about five feet, nine inches. He had a round boyish face, a fair complexion and eyes of grayish blue. His hair, also wavy and worn in our style, was sandy in color. He was dressed in a gray suit and was also hatless. He smiled as he addressed me by name. As I acknowledged the greeting, the speaker extended his hand and when it touched mine a great joy filled me. The signal was the same as had been given by the man I had met on the desert on that memorable November 20, 1952. (Described in the book Flying Saucers Have Landed).”

Significant in Adamski’s description is how the two extraterrestrials could pass off as businessmen. Aside from a penetrating stare, nothing struck him as unusual in their appearance. Adamski goes on to explain how he went with them in their car to travel to a remote desert location:

“Together we left the lobby, I walking between them. About a block north of the hotel, they turned into a parking lot where they had a car waiting. They had not spoken during this short time, yet inwardly I knew that these men were true friends. I felt no urge to ask where they proposed to take me, nor did it seem odd that they had volunteered no information. An attendant brought the car around, and the younger man slid into the driver’s seat, motioning me to get in beside him. Our other companion also sat with us on the front seat. The car was a four-door black Pontiac sedan. The man who had taken the wheel seemed to know exactly where he was going and drove skillfully. I am not familiar with all the new highways leading out of Los Angeles, so I had no idea in which direction we were headed. We rode in silence and I remained entirely content to wait for my companions to identify themselves and explain the reason for our meeting.”

“What’s significant here is that the two extraterrestrials possessed a car and knew how to navigate on the newly completed Los Angeles highway system. This is no mean feat and suggests that the extraterrestrials had taken the time to learn the road traffic rules and how to navigate through Los Angeles.”

Dr. Salla indicates in “Extraterrestrials Among Us”, that Adamski further reveals:

“Lights and dwellings thinned as we left the outskirts of the city. The taller man spoke for the first time… His voice was soft and pleasant and his English perfect. I had noticed that the younger man also spoke softly, although his voice was pitched higher. I found myself wondering how and where they had learned to speak our language so well.”

“…We are what you on Earth might call ‘Contact men.’ We live and work here, because, as you know, it is necessary on Earth to earn money with which to buy clothing, food, and the many things that people must have. We have lived on your planet now for several years. At first we did have a slight accent. But that has been overcome and, as you can see, we are unrecognized as other than Earth men. “At our work and in our leisure time we mingle with people here on Earth, never betraying the secret that we are inhabitants of other worlds. That would be dangerous, as you well know. We understand you people better than most of you know yourselves and can plainly see the reasons for many of the unhappy conditions that surround you.”

Dr. Salla indicates also that, “This passage [previous] is significant since it describes how the extraterrestrials have spent years living on Earth, learning the language, getting jobs and mixing with the human population. Furthermore, it appears as though extraterrestrials living among the human population may work in pairs, a kind of buddy system that would make sense in terms of ensuring safety and communications with the home world if an emergency ever occurred. If Adamski is accurate in his recollections and the extraterrestrials are telling the truth, then it would appear that there could be a significant number of extraterrestrials who are living incognito among the normal population in many if not most major cities on the planet. Upon examining other contactee cases and the testimonies of whistleblowers, it does appear as though this is indeed the case.”

Exopolitics groups furthermore provide additional representation that Adamski was not the only one of the contactees making representation that extraterrestrials were blending in with the human population. Howard Menger, for example. also claimed to have been contacted by extraterrestrials posing as ordinary human citizens. In one case, the extraterrestrial was posing as a real estate salesperson and asked Menger to accompany him in one of the extraterrestrial’s vehicle.

In addition to seeking to learn about human values and civilization, it appears that “Human ET” visitors were conducting a low key education effort to promote awareness of their presence to a limited number of individual ‘contactees’.

These “Human extraterrestrial visitors” have been represented has often having as very attractive physical characteristics, with “Human extraterrestrial females” being described as among the most beautiful women that male observers have witnessed.

The “Human extraterrestrials visitors” furthermore have been represented as going to great trouble in learning the indigenous language of the culture they are immersed in, learning how to drive and navigate on highways systems, and taking innocuous jobs over several years.

Extraterrestrials living among us appear to be operating in a manner similar to a “celestial peace corps” where they try to blend in. They presumably wish to learn about Earth culture and behaviour; and to, perhaps, assist in passing on information to selected individuals.

Representation on Earth Humans relative to “non-Earthbound” humans:

Advanced Human ETs as viewing Earth Humans as barbarians and savages which are a threat to themselves

Alex Collier alleges that ETs revealed to his that there are over 135 other billion human beings in the 8 galaxies closest to ours.

Alex Collier alleges that “The first time I walked on to one of their ships [Human ETs] , a bunch of their children started to run away from me. They knew that I was from Earth.”

“We have a very bad reputation,” Alex Collier indicates, “because we are the only human race in the galaxy that kills itself, that turns on itself. We are the only race [human] that allows itself to live in poverty. We are the only ones who allow members of our race to starve. We are the only ones that allow members of the race to be homeless. We are the only race that would sell itself into slavery. I don’t like the reflection they give me of us. It’s not that they are judging. They just don’t understand why we do it. If anyone’s got an answer for it, I’m open. Yes, we’ve been manipulated by belief systems, but why do we believe these belief systems?”

According to testimony by Alex Collier in associated with alleged ET contacts, Earth Humans “are the only race of human beings which oppresses and kills itself.”

If Human ETs do exist, as scholarly and other representation suggests, the saving of Humanity from its current apparent course of self-destruction, including on-going catastrophic Global Warming, may very well vitally rely on human governance systems placing its greed-driven bigotries aside, toward a constructive dialogue.

Help, how do I get off this list!

In saying goodbye, note that there seems to be NO zoological
Bigfoot, but there can be a space-time Bigfoot.

Read "The Hunt for the Skinwalker"

Beckjord

I hope someone can rearch this Joe Friedrichs guy and tell him what an idiot he is. Matches his photo.

beckjord

Um, are Jason and Eric the same person? And who is making sure they take their meds?

http://206.225.95.123/forumlive/showthread.php?s=ea69c6ee1e31e76fd8c22b94d156f67a&t=43206&page=12

Chilcutt's observations have LONG since been wrong. Even he and Meldrum accept it. You really should keep up on your cryptozoology. The dermal ridges turned out never to have been dermal ridges. See Matt Crowley on google searches.

Bonzo's post has me curious.
*Goes to closet and pulls out Meldrums book. Notes huge chapter on dermal ridges contained within.*
Strange... If Meldrum no longer believes dermal ridges are valid evidence, why was this chapter included in his new book? Why does it cover so much detail regarding this evidence? Sweat glands? Healed scars, etc.?

Crowleys feeble attempt at disproving dermal ridges is almost comical. He show's some layered plaster and claims proof that this evidence is not valid. I guess if it makes the subscribers of "Skeptic's Magazine" happy that's all that matters. Who is Crowley? Other than I guy that can mix plaster.

Who has disproved the DNA evidence? I'd be very interested in reading up on that.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&q=yeti+dna+&btnmeta;=search=search=Search+the+Web

Dear Dr Fill,
So let me get this straight. You feel that in todays society anyone capable of independent thought should be medicated?

Your show sucks big time by the way.

To all the people that think they know everything: I would like to hear the opinions of the movies I've linked in previous posts.

I've noticed "Logical" is no longer posting. The truth too painful for you? You at least owe me an apology and a big "Thank you!" for waking you up to reality.

Here, - you mindless sheep - do humanity a favor and take the red pill: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=911+mysteries&hl=en

Naw....sorry kid. I stopped posting for a simple reason. I wouldn't argue against someone claiming pigs could fly. It would be useless. And so would it be with you arguing topics concerning Bigfoot, 9/11 conspiracies, alien DNA ect...

Chilcutt and Meldrum have conceded there were grave errors in their insistence that their cherished dermal ridges were not dermal ridges at all.

“Even Jeff Meldrum, the chief academic spokesmen for Sasquatch, has grudgingly conceded this piece of evidence for Bigfoot is lost. According to the December 2005 Bigfoot Times, Meldrum is quoted as saying, "However, I caution others not to extend the results of [Crowley's] experiments beyond the conditions he has investigated, which apply to the Onion Mountain track site."
See http://www.csicop.org/sb/2006-09/bigfoot.html

One sad thing is that you and your type insist everyone else are sheep marching mindlessly to the tune of some evil empire of ignorance when in reality it is exactly the opposite. It's you and your type that are doing this. It's that simple.

I have no more interest in debating this silly subject with you than Krantz would have had interest in debating any of your other fanciful beliefs. They are beliefs. Not based on science. They are based on a need (just like religion) to believe – and to believe even in the face of insurmountable evidence or non-evidence.
Enjoy your time here and on the message boards. Oh, and please send me any old copies of the National Enquirer you might have laying around. I need paper for my bird cage. Thanks in advance.

I am beyond this subject dear. Lets get into the important stuff. I've posted the links.

If you have put any real effort into watching those documentaries then move onto the next paragraph....

My "type" (true patriots capable of asking questions of the establishment without fear of being ridiculed by your type) feel bad for you and your Plastic American Flag waving patriotism. (Am I wrong to presume judging from you mindset that you ran right out and bought a little plastic chinese slave labor flag for your SUV to show your support for the country after the big charade?) You and your progeny will make excellent citizens in our Brave New World.

Now where's my Victory Gin? I need a drink.

lol!

Please drink heavily. Not only is your drink not a drink of victory, but the drug of choice of the delusional.
Best wishes, and I mean that. You will need it.

"Best wishes, and I mean that. You will need it."

Hey thanks! Those are inspiring words. Sometimes I feel as though there is no hope mankind when I stop to look around and see nothing but clueless zombies like yourself.

Wow! I feel much better! Thanks for your wishes for my well being! I feel suddenly alive! You know? I think I will go catch a movie! Lets see.... Maybe something you would find extremely entertaining. Have they made "Glitter 2" yet?

Just finished a quick scan through chapter 14 of Jeff Meldrums Book "Sasquatch Legend Meets Science" (September 2006).

This statement is completely false:

Even Jeff Meldrum, the chief academic spokesmen for Sasquatch, has grudgingly conceded this piece of evidence for Bigfoot is lost. According to the December 2005 Bigfoot Times, Meldrum is quoted as saying, "However, I caution others not to extend the results of [Crowley's] experiments beyond the conditions he has investigated, which apply to the Onion Mountain track site."

Amateur investigator Matt Crowley's experiments are sighted in chapter 14. No where did I see Meldrum or Chilcutt conceding that the dermal ridge evidence is no longer valid. In fact that chapter only reaffirmed my point form me.
Here's all I could find online for it: http://www.bigfootencounters.com/reviews/legend.htm

You folks are dangerous in a sense. Are you with the U.S. Department of Propaganda?

http://www.livevideo.com/video/TheAmericanMaxim/DF20A424A5D84DCA98911D510DA63F9B/prehistoric-shark-appears-off-japan.aspx

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/250107lynchquestions.htm

"My hostility toward the research team grew more intense with each passing hour. Each pounding drop of rain made me grow more skeptical of what the crew said."

Before you close the case on Bigfoot, ask your doctory about Zoloft!

Joseph-

a 5 second Google search would have saved you some $$$. Tom Biscardi and crew are known hucksters. Same with BFRO.

You only have yourself to blame on this one---be mad at yourself.

You went out just once. These animals aren't going to come out and say, "Oh, you found me, good job! I'll come peacefully!" These are rare creatures to begin with. Add that in that MOST animals, Sasquatches included, are notoriously "shy" of humans, and prefer not to contact. Some exceptions would be dolphins and most domesticated animals.

Also, many other animals have large amounts of photos of them. What most people don't know is that a lot of these photos are taken in zoos and refuges for the animal, not just someone who trekked out to the mountains and took a picture. As far as I know, no one has a Sasquatch in captivity, so photos are few and far between.

Another thing is that, when you see something that science says doesn't exist, you go into shock. Also, these things are 7-9 ft tall, and on average weigh about 600 lbs. Now THAT is a scary sight. I can say that if I saw one, a camera and photo would be the last thing on my mind. I would probably be running and thinking about how i'm going to clean up my pants later.

Think about that, please.

I Have set up numerous traps outside od my home in Ohio made of straw and barbwire. Through investigation i can now sleep soundly at night knowing that ia will not be mauled to death in my sleep.

Thank you for supporting me.

Possible sideffects are drowsiness, sensitivity to light, anal seepage, and in rare cases blindness, death, loss of hearing, depression and prison rape have been reported.
Please ask your doctor of Enzyte is right for you.


Love,
Beandip

Well, I have set up my own cameras in various places and have caught many glimpses of something that resembles bigfoot. I have also met bigfoot's children and they are calm, nice hairy creatures. Bigfoot disbelievers are an abomination to God, just like homosexuals, blacks, midgets and flip-flop waffles. You people who don't believe in bigfoot can SUCK IT and burn in the eternal firey depths of hell..where you BELONG! I don't even care what you folks say, bigfoot does not rape human beings or their dogs..well maybe just once..but that is irrelevant.

Just remember, bigfoot is real, and so is Mrs. Bigfoot along with their three children, Taylom, Bo, and Roberta. I have actual documents showing these creatures and no, my four year-old daughter did not draw them, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Happy Easter to all and thank you!

PENIS!!!!!

Walker (Texas Ranger), I would like you to know that Bigfoot has raped me on numerous occasions and he continues to rape me to this very day! On occasion, he gives his children authority to take me roughly in the barn, located just outside my home, while his wife slaps my ass and makes me call her mommy. The sex is usually very rough and unlubricated! I have had several throbbing ass welts, and many severe hemmhoroids from these ploughings, and now my ass looks like a freakin' cherry danish or somethin'! Where do you get off telling people that bigfoot doesn't rape people anymore, 'cause I get off in the barn:) lol

Well shteven until i personally ger raped (either anally or otherwise) i will not beleive this story of yours (unless i see the video mentioned above or i get a good look at that throbbing ass or yours). You are just filling these peoples minds with false hope (and crude thoughts) about bigfoot. please stop writing these sencless argumentative conversations.

Possible side efffects are: AIDs, the clap, a burning sensation while urinating, drowsiness, mild dis-comfort, a loose feelnig in the anus, welting of the anus and in rare cases: the loss of the ability to sit on stools, thouhgts of suicide, messy hair, matted pubes, and anxiety have been reported.

Please ask your doctor of anal rape by fictional hairy primates is right for you.



Love,
Beandip

Well Shteve, your claims of "rape" by Bigfoot are false! I know this because Bigfoot (including his entire family) have been staying at my house for fear of being caught. I feed them blueberry pancakes every morning and you should just stop the crap and understand that nobody believes you! If you honestly want to make something up, at least make it believable...jeez.

I just wish that you sinners would go to hell where you belong! God will punish you for your heinus lies; it will not go unoticed! God remembers..he knows! He knows what really goes on in that barn, Shteve! He knows of your nefarious acts. So, next time you decide to feed the entire bigfoot loving world a load of crap, think of Jesus, your saviour. Your ass probably doesn't even look like a cherry danish, you lie!!!! You're probably one of those colored folk that have no business here! You're all liars! I should have the police arrest you for such a lie! Your lie could kill people! I'm praying for you, Shteve because you certainly need it.

well mr. Shteve i am shamed and have pity upon your soul. My family has never even met you before. please stop spreading rumors (and any sex that i had had with your family was completely consentual.)

I hope that you and all who can sit and read this shit will burn in hell and your childeren die of aids at age 7. i am sick and tired of all of this and im here to set everyone strait. My kind are not monsters, we do not live in the wild and i actually just bought a new house just outside of Harlem. okay it may only have 1 bedroom, but it is very close to one of the three KFC's on the block.

As for you Beandip i have never been to that shithole that you call Ohio, and please pick up those damn traps, my cousins are thinking of moving there and it would be a shame if i had to come to your house and murder you and your man-lover in your sleep. Oh and for that comment about my wife, i will let you no where your childeren are...but not what i have done with or to them.

Now on to you Walker(Texas Ranger) i am letting you know that i am filing a lawsuit againt you for harassment, false advertising, and for just being a little bastard about this stuff. Oh and by the way Jesus hates you too.

Now as for you Fenrin Shadowseeker..I really dont appreciate you calling me a "Creature". i am a walking, talking, almost person.

Now Jason..wow your comment was so fucking long....dont you go outside....OMG u must not have a life at all. I bet your entire family is disgrased and shamed at such a worthless peice of shit.

thank you for your participation

BiGfOot, it appears that the only difference between modern man and you is the ability to type. Seriously, did you take a course on being an ignorant asshole? I can just picture it now; allow me to paint you a picture: The sign says Shit Typing for Dummies 101, you are sitting in the front of the classroom with an apple prepared for the dumbass teacher, and I'm fucking your wife in my barn (I'm not the only one that enjoys spanking). By the way, Walker, Beandip, and I don't have any children, but I certainly would hope that, even if we did, you wouldn't wish such a horrible, debilitating disease on anyone, especially 7-year-olds. I do hope that, if and when you do have kids (which I really hope that you don't), they grow up to be better than you.

With regard to you (BiGfOot) and the humiliation you should feel,
Shteve!

Sorry, Shteve, I was just mad because I told my parents that I'm gay, and I was looking for someone to yell at.

Wow, bigfoot's gay haha!

Wow, Bigfoot, you were really acting like a piece of shit. I don't care that you are gay, you shouldn't talk to people like that when they're obviously joking. What's the matter with you?

I agree with accord, this bigfoot guy's a real worthless shit/asshole. It sounds like he's got more than just a dick up his ass.

Ohh u guys be nice to him....hes just a little bi-curious thats all

he doesnt know any better.....hes just a fictional hairy pirmate...cant you show some love.....all hugs to you bigfoot i love you<3

Well at least someone isnt such a little bitch about everything that i type.
Im not sorry about what i wrote, and i ment everyword of it. i really do hope all of your childeren (except for beandips) get aids, crabs, and pneumonia.

I love you too beandip <3

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is this a true story?

You know why people say bigfoot doesn't exist? Because he doesn't. And the people out there doing their research have STILL not produced a single solitary irrefutable shred of evidence as to its existence. It's a myth. A myth. Ancient civilizations MAKE THINGS UP ABOUT THE REALITY AROUND THEM. One can find more evidence that Zeus existed than one can find that Bigfoot did. I love the "DO YOUR RESEARCH" bullshyt argument. That basically boils down to the believers not being able to produce proof in any fashion. Giant Squids PRODUCED evidence in the forms of corpses, etc, and they had IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that they existed. But bigfood has NONE. Don't tell me to do my research. I have. It all (ALL!!!!!!!) consists of word-of-mouth testimonials that are NOT evidence. I could say that I have magical powers, and then tell you to do YOUR research about it and tell you you're uninformed and ignorant, but it doesn't change the fact that I don't really have magical powers. Nor do I CHARGE people $300 fees to help me to prove that I do.

What about the DNA? The Dermal Ridges? The sightings by extremely credible people? These jokers last week don't help the mystery but if you have really looked into this as you say you would know about the DNA of the YETI (unknown animal but definitely primate) and the Meldrum Sasquatch sample (Primate, similar to human but with mutations).

The truth of the matter is you are commenting on articles about this mystery as if you know what you're talking about but you haven't honestly looked into this. How many books have you read? How many documentaries have you seen?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7525060.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BLKEW5OC_U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0pO2ZIkW0

hey if you go on google there are pics of bigfoot and there are some people that are natrually hairy so they can be bigfoot. you will never know but there is a lot of bigfoots out there!!!!!!!!!!!

Bigfoot is not REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!