By David Nolt, 12-19-07
| Turned earth at the Ameya Preserve near the site for the village area, which is slated to include 35,000 square feet of community buildings. photo by David Nolt. | |
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| Wade Dokken, left, and Park County Commissioners Jim Durgan, middle, and Dick Murphy, right, at a site visit to the Ameya Preserve in September 2006. Photo by David Nolt. | |
Free market environmentalism in all its forms is a fraud. What people like Wayne Dokken are doing is nothing more than creating a 21st century form of feudalism, keeping what's left for themselves. That's a rather cynical and contemptuous form of conservation.
I applaud the efforts of people like Pete Feigley to oppose this development.
David, please contact me at . I'd like to talk with you about the Sun Ranch easement, which is starting to look like another feudal event.
Perhaps there is a reason that gives a 'pass' on the green credentials of Rob and Janae Galanis at Horse Butte, while the fire is put to Wade Dokken. What's the difference between the two development ideas for nonresident land barrons? Will NewWest follow up with an equally critical and questioning article on the Galanis venture?
Comment By Robert Hoskins, 12-19-07Green credentials are earned.
Comment By Gman, 12-19-07The photo associated with the article looks a lot like illegal ex parte communication between a subdivider and elected officials.
MCA 2-4-613. Ex parte consultations. Unless required for disposition of ex parte matters authorized by law, the person or persons who are charged with the duty of rendering a decision or to make findings of fact and conclusions of law in a contested case, after issuance of notice of hearing, may not communicate with any party or a party's representative in connection with any issue of fact or law in the case except upon notice and opportunity for all parties to participate.
The trade off of "saving 8,000 acres while "developing" 1500 acres is better than losing all 9500 acres. If the 8000 acres is elk & deer winter range & it is useable after the 1500 acres are developed then all is not lost. An additional question that is not knowable at this time is what will be the ultimate fate of all of the remaining private lands in the Paradise Valley? How much more will be urbanized?
Comment By Craig Moore, 12-19-07Robert, David writes:
"More than most of America, Montana has an egalitarian spirit; long, cold winters and low wages create a certain camaraderie. There is a powerful pride of place, and nowhere more so than in the old railroad town and Western writers haunt of Livingston. Something like Ameya Preserve just seems too big, too different, too foreign, too wealthy, too pretentious -- in short, out-of-place, a prospective enclave of very rich people who are from a different class, and who might as well be from a different planet...
Dokken, by positioning the Ameya Preserve as a conservation development, has invited a lot of extra scrutiny. Now he's getting it."
Regarding the Galanis', here's what they presented at their land use meeting: http://westyellowstonenews.com/articles/2007/03/30/news/news1.prt
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The plan was described by Ron Slade of Bechtle-Slade, the project's architect and land planner, and Tom Olenicki, a wildlife biologist who is working as a consultant on the project. Slade began his presentation by noting that the land in question is presently zoned R - 10 (Residential with a 10 acre minimum lot size). The land owners were thus legally entitled to put 71 home sites on the property if they chose to do so, and would be allowed additional sites if those sites were "clustered."
Furthermore, Slade continued, because the proposed plan involved no variances to the current zoning, the Galanis's were not required to present their plan to the Advisory Board. They wished to do so, he said, in order to provide factual information to the community.
"It is our intent, Slade said, "to minimize our footprint." He listed a number of methods of doing so: All undeveloped property, a bit under half the total acreage, would be placed in a conservation easement; homes would be required to meet strict environmental standards; home owners with horses would keep the animals in a common stable; homes would be sited to facilitate the movement of wildlife; fencing would be held to a minimum; only four future homes would be visible from across the lake; viewsheds would be considered, and no roofs above a ridge line would be permitted; an effort would be made to persuade the Department of Livestock to stop hazing bison in the area.
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The Galanis' seem to be a wealthy real estate investment banker and his wife who wish to develop a prime piece of property into various ranchettes without interference by regulatory authorities be they the Forest Service, DOL, or local zoning. Their plan looks surprising similar to the Ameya Preserve goals to make money and provide for conservation. Again, why should the Galanis' get a pass while Dokken gets skewered here at NewWest when both seem to have the same development intentions of locking up a piece of heaven for the privileged few? How does the mere disparity of size of the respective developments justfiy the scrutiny in one case and a 'pass' in the other? The buyers in either case appear to be as David says about Ameya Preserve, "...a prospective enclave of very rich people who are from a different class, and who might as well be from a different planet."
To Craig Moore:
One big difference is the Ameya Preseve project invloves the purchase of 2 state sections of public land, which are critical habitat for elk and other wildlife, especially winter range. I am not sure to what degree those properties would go under the development knife. Maybe others could weigh in on that.
Dokken is another wealthy, Clinton/Rubin/Leiberman democrat who is about as liberal as our governor. Check out Uncle Wade and all his "liberal" friends from Park and Gallatin Counties at the link below.
The county, the state, the nation, the world do not need anymore gated communities for the richest people in the country to have a fourth or fifth home.
http://www.gallatindemocrats.com/Photoevents/WadeDokkenparty06.htm
Dear MW,
Yes, the clustering design is likely a good thing, assuming Wade actually follows through with setting aside 8,000 acres. Simply because the supposed design is better than break up the ranch into 20-acre parcels, does not make it a boon to conservation. The 8,000 acres are likely undevelopable anyway, due to topography or other hazards. (Look at a 7.5-minute topomap of the area!) Wade also plans to put much of that undevelopable land into conservation easement (no legal commitment yet). (He may well be setting aside the wildlife habitat of least value.) Guess who ultimately pays for the conservation easement - the taxpayers. Keep in mind that Wade will claim development value for that land being placed in easement (ca. $2 million for 10 acres = $200,000 per acre. Multiply that by 8,000 acres - I can't count that high). That is a scam!
Placing 300 homes in that area, plus access roads and other infrastructure will greatly diminish the value of the habitat. Check out the Ameya Preserve website. As Pete Feigley has pointed out in various places, Ameya is advertising lots "at the edge of a meadow, in the shelter of aspen stands, or bordering on nearby wetlands..." If you think building sites in such limited habitats is good for wildlife, your sadly mistaken. Ameya's claim of wildlife conservation is merely a catchy marketing phrase designed to lure people who think green is sheik. Dokken's green veil is extraordinarily thin.
Just for the record, I have never stated verbally or in writing that I oppose this development. I certainly do not like it, but I have not stated outright opposition to the project. In fact, in testimony to the Park County Planning Board, I commended Mr. Dokken for his plans to use a cluster building design. The proposed design is more thoughtful than most designs submitted to the Park County planning office.
What I find offensive about this project is Team Ameya's advertising claims, such as:
"This project preserves natural resources that couldn't be preserved by any other means" (full-page ad in Livingston and Bozeman newspapers), and
Ameya Preserves seeks to set "a new standard in preserving the natural landscape and wildlife" (http://www.museumoftherockies.org/Home/VISIT/PressRoom/AmeyaPreserveGift/tabid/247/Default.aspx ) or,
"We will dedicate 1,700 acres in North Dakota to planting trees that will offset all of the CO2 generation for all families of Ameya Preserve during their entire lifetimes" (full-page ad in Bozeman and Livingston newspapers and The Conservation Fund website - http://www.ameyapreserve.com/news/ameya_preserve_to_go_zero ).
None of these claims is true. The advertising is nothing more than misleading marketing hype targeting naive people, plain and simple! Call it what it is, but it is not conservation or preservation of natural resources; it is a waste of resources. Moreover, planting trees in North Dakota to offset CO2 emissions is absurd. Only a complete fool would fall for that.
Glenn, I'm sure there are all sorts of superficial differences. My question goes to David's questioning of the intentions, green credentials, and buyers in one case (Dokken) but giving a pass on those same issues in the other case (Galanis).
Comment By Dave Skinner, 12-19-07You know, if it has to be like this, setting aside 8000 acres is probably the least worst way it will happen, even if the profits from this fiasco will probably go to political donations for more liberals. It's too bad about the edge habitat, but then again, through deliberate vegetation management, one can certainly make more.
And I must question the math skills of some of those here. The parcels being sold have not only the lot ground, but a share of the larger package which will be a joint conservation easement held by whatever entity Dokken sets up. And I bet you that people smart enough to have a couple million have advisers to make sure that the contract doesn't allow further subdivision of the 8000 acres. That might not apply to the lucky-sperm club, but it probably does.
Sure, the bowhunt thing is token. But then, there's no buy in from the hunters so why should it be any more than a token gesture?
Sad.
I looked at the Neiman Marcus item, just a lovely picture of a perfect alpenglow evening. Yah....what about when the wind does its Paradise Valley thing and the viz is zero and temps 40 below that? Charming.
Craig;
Just what do you have against the Galanis'? Have you ever MET these people? Have you even seen the property in question? Do you have ANY idea what would have happened to this property had the Galanis' NOT purchased it? Have you seen ANY of the developement that is and has gone on in the West Yellowstone area?
Rob and Janae' are a nice couple that are trying to do what would be best for this area. Considering the alternatives, I for one am TICKLED to have them for 'neighbors'.
What difference does it make if he's a Real Estate Investment Banker or won the Lottery? It is their property now and not your concern as to what they propose to do with it. I live here and am VERY happy they are the ones that now own that ranch.
Because of them the property will still have the chance to 'breathe', and so will the wildlife that is in the area. Unlike the subdivision that is just a little south of me, with a house every 50 feet or so.
It is also nice to know that every Tom, Dick and Harry won't be allowed to be on that property to tear it up with dirt bike tracks dogs running at large, snowmobilers ignoring other peoples rights, and the list goes on.
Seems to me Craig your a bit jealous because somebody has the means to do a little good for an area, and preserve it from concrete and asphalt.
9500 acres is a heck of a lot more than the measly 700 the Galanis' have. So get off their backs geeze.
Ann, please read my comments here. I question NW's disparate scrutiny of the two real estate ventures, not the people, Galanis or Dokken, involved. They look the same to me.
Comment By Ann, 12-19-07Craig;
Maybe these comments, but you have to admit that your past comments have not been in favor of the Galanis' mission. You seem to think they have a hidden agenda, and that is not the case.
I could only wish you would spend this kind of effort on the ridiculous Pork Barrel spending when it comes to taxpayer dollars, instead of what people do with their OWN money.
Ann, thanks for the admission that I did not do as you claimed. It always pays to read before reacting. I have no reason to believe that either the Dokkens or the Galanis' are not nice people.
In terms of the Galanis', Dokkens, or developer opportunists of similar ilk and intentions, I am not in favor of Montana being sold off to the people David describes as "...very rich people who are from a different class, and who might as well be from a different planet."
Craig;
Then I suggest you do what a Real Estate agent told me to do. If you don't like outsiders buying it then YOU buy it. After all it's not like it wasn't on the market.
This entire country is now what it is because of outsiders.
Ann, let's not quarrel over nothing. May your life be filled with the blessings of the Season.
Comment By David Nolt, 12-19-07GMan, the photo is from a publicly notified official Park County site visit for preliminary plat approval of Phase 1 at Ameya. Perfectly legal.
Craig, I'm not quite sure why you are confusing these two stories. The Galanis story was about brucellosis, bison management and the Galanis' assertion that the DOL cannot enter their property to haze bison because there are no cattle there. If you read this and the next four installments of this story, you will realize--though their is a common vein of the New West pattern of non-traditional landowners "conserving" large tracts of wildlife-sensitive land--that's about where they stop being similar.
If presenting the facts of this development and this community's reaction to it is "skewering" and presenting the facts on the Galanis' and DOL's stances on bison management is giving a "pass," I don't know what to tell you sir. It is what it is, and these are two distinctly different stories. This discussion might be better served if we stick to the story and related issues at hand. Thanks (sincerely) for the scrutiny, though.
Thanks for reading everybody, and stay tuned over the next four days...
-David Nolt
Dave, you have me scratching my head. Both projects involve developing prime wildlife lands into a series of McMansion estates. Both projects have conservation as their stated goals. Both projects will make the developers mega-bucks. Both projects invole nonresident developers. Both projects have the type of buyer you described as "...very rich people who are from a different class, and who might as well be from a different planet."
Now why the disparate scutiny of the two deals and the harsh judgement only for Dokken?
Dave, let me clarify further. There is a common set of facts in both real estate projects as I noted above. You raise issues and make disparging comments (Dokken buyers) related to those facts but are silent on those issues with Galanis. That is the disparate scrutiny that I mean.
Comment By David Nolt, 12-19-07Thanks for clarifying Craig. I agree, the Yellowstone Ranch Preserve and Ameya have the New West landowner/wildlife thing in common, as I stated above. My story on the Galanises did not focus on their development plans; it was about bison, etc. If I were to spend even half the time on a story on the Galanises and their development as I have on Dokken and Ameya, I would be happy to apply the same scrutiny I did here.
Comment By Craig Moore, 12-19-07David, peace. I request that you hold all of these sell-offs of Montana to the same level of scrutiny.
Comment By peter webster, 12-19-07It's not "class envy."
I've simply come to feel the rich and powerful are despicable.
I stand corrected on Pete Feigley's non-opposition to the development, although given the facts of it, there is a lot to oppose.
Regarding the Galanis', the difference between their actions and Wade Dokken's is that the Galanis' have stood up for something, for buffalo, whereas it seems clear that Wade Dokken is standing up for his wallet, despite all the hype about him being a "conservationist."
I think David's story is remarkably detailed and even handed. Dokken has made his claims, and his critics have made theirs. There's enough here for us to make considered opinions, especially given the references to the Ameya Preserve's own marketing material. Quite frankly, Dokken's own propaganda comes across as pure image and no substance. Luxury and exclusion are the watchwords.
It's a naive or dishonest conservationist on the take--and there are such "conservationists"--who thinks luxury and conservation are compatible.
Remember, conservation is CONSERVATIVE. There's nothing conservative about this development.
I look forward to the subsequent stories. David's done a lot of work here.
Dead Ed's Bullis Creek Ranch has been sold to another dude with dough. Live with it. It is going to be developed so that some folks can spend an inordinate amount of money to salve their green deficiencies. Hubba hubba. I like the part about their buying carbon credits out front for their prospective clients. I thought it was in Tennessee, not North Dakota. I have some I would sell in the Warner Valley in Oregon in the great greasewood carbon sink. Either that or I will have to develop the land as a wetland mitigation bank. Think they will do that on Bullis Creek?
The Neiman-Marcus deal is a nice touch. There will be a gate, owner only access, and the State sections will not be accessible to the public, just as they are not open today.. if the State sections sell or are traded for more land in some big game wintering area, tell me what the loss is? The public was never a part of that property, nor will they be anytime soon.
If people don't like the whole idea, they ought to go thank the likes of the Clintons, Babbitts, Framptons, et al. There are huge tax breaks for those who can afford to develop that type of property using "lost value" appraisals to write down the investment. Joe Sixpack is not buying land in 10,000 acre blocks, and conservation easements are of no value to him. Nor will they provide Joe with another foot of creek to fish, or another acre of land to hunt. So Joe gets hosed two ways: one he pays more of his income in taxes than Lucky SpermGuy, or Lucky InHardWorkGuy, and then those taxes are refunded to both Luckys. Joe gets nothing in the deal. Only the right to pay for it.
If you think it is a scam, then you have been scammed by your Democrat Congress, just like the Farm Bill 2008. Or like Oregon's Democrat legislature's lobby reform bill. $50 a year from any lobbyist to an elected official. One dinner and drinks. But, there is no campaign contribution limit. And that is the legislator's money. If he leaves office, the unspent campaign money goes with him or her. You have to know that legislature is for sale. Money talks and BS walks. If you are poor, you had better join a union, 'cause as I see it, the government now exists for the government, for the unions, and for the rich. All else go back home and pray for relief, because your legislature is not going to help you nor is your Congress. Unless, of course, you can pay them to. That is why Big Green, Big Environment, are owned by the rich. It is a way to get out of taxes and own lots of property, with Joe Sixpack paying the way. And they can feel good in some sort of superficial way. Now that oil is controlled by other nations, the big scammers are going to sell carbon credits so we can still reap a fortune from oil sales. What a deal!!! And your Congress makes it law.
I love Dan's assertion that planting trees in ND or where ever for carbon offsets is a scam and anyone who believes in it is a complete fool. Isn't that how Saint Al gets his carbon credits? Paying himself to plant a tree or water it or whatever?
Folks the large tracts of land are owned by ranchers, when you rid the countryside of them, they still own that asset and are going to sell where they can get the most money. I don't think pleasing the environmentalists that help put them out of business is a part of their consideration. Sharing public lands with them would slow some of the mega developments that eventually shut everyone out. Waging war on them is really against the best interests of anyone who wants access to public land.
Craig, the difference between this land and the Galanis place is the buffalo. By saying it is to protect the buffs, he has total support and no scrutiny, I suspect he is well aware that it is unlikely that anyone is going to turn infected buffalo loose on the state. He has nothing to lose whether they do or don't, he was able to save a lot of money that would be spent on litigation if he weren't saying it is to protect the buffalo.
Marion, are you suggesting that 'green washing' bison gives camouflage to a developer's lust for bucks? Perhpas Wade Dokken could run a few head like Turner at his Flying D ranch and escape the scrutiny Dokken has been subjected to here. That strategy seems to be working for the Galanises. I suppose Bozeman will be the private jet port for the 'second homers' for both developments.
Comment By Doug Pineo, 12-20-07would it be reasonable to advance the proposition that Mr. Dokken already has "enough money"? I mean, if he stopped working tomorrow, he could eat and hang out at the Livingston Bar and Grill or the Gallatin Gateway every night for the rest of his life, right? There's no Volkswagon Taureg or Toyota Prius or private island he can't buy. The Ameya deal is just about making more money. He's not proposing this development on the family ranch back in North Dakota. This is not a cynic's view. Look at the facts.
Mr. Moore thoughtfully compares what's proposed at this ranch with what Ted Turner's done in Montana and New Mexico. Ted might be a wealthy non-resident. Maybe I'll never be able to hunt on the Flying D. Still, Ted walks the talk on conservation more than most. Ain't no hundreds of trophy houses on the Flying D. I haven't heard he's proposing to wipe out over 44 acres of aspen clones, and fragment the remainder.
Haven't seen a Russ Chatham print or painting of dense-pack trophy houses on the edge of a Montana high meadow...
Doug, surely you realize there is neither enough money, now power for those who have lot's of either. If you don't like these kind of developments try to figure ways to keep ranchers on the ranch instead of doing everything possible to get rid of them and their cattle. A ranchers total wealth is in his livestock and his land, and he must have the livestock to support the land, otherwise he has to sell. Guys like Ameya and Turner are the ones with the money, and that means they can shut out other folks.
Only one answer, keep ranchers ranching, even if you msut share the forests with cows or sheep.
Marion,
You might be confusing me with someone else who has an animus toward Montana ranchers. I have been accused of being an apologist for ranchers more than once, but so far, not as someone who'd try to run cattle out of the west. I have seen literally millions of acres of overgrazed public and private lands, and thousands of miles of degraded streams and wetlands, all from grazing. Many of these impacts can be significantly mitigated with changes in grazing practices and in some cases, reductions in stocking rates. But at the end of the day, give me grazing over subdivion and houses every time.
It's not grazing that's trashing big game and sage grouse in Wyoming, it's coal bed methane gas extraction, and associated shrub-steppe subdivision and ranchette development for all those gas field workers, and the people who move to Wyoming to serve the industry.
My point above was that Ted Turner and Mr. Dokken both have piles of money. Though one might ask when is enough enough, this is not Scandinavia but the USA, and both are free to pursue much more. Ted has chosen to pursue true land saving action with his wealth, while Mr. Dokken has chosen a different path. They'd probably both be fun at a party, but that's not the point, is it?
The tradition of wealthy "outsiders" owning large ranches in the northern high plains goes way back to the middle 19th century, so there's nothing new about the advent of Turner or Dokken in Montana. Both sing a conservationist song, only one is practicing the real deal. And even the decling number of ranchers of modest means can stay on their places if they convey conservation easements so they aren't taxed off it.
Peace be with you, friend.
Doug Pineo
Sorry, Doug, I did not mean that you personally are trying to rid the land of ranchers, none the less, I'm sure you would agree with me that "Cattle Free by 93" is still the moving force of many environmental groups, even though they didn't have it accomplished by then.
I personally feel that we need the cattle ranchers, not only becasue we need an American food source, but also becaue despite all of the hype, they do far more for wildlife than environmentalists want to admit. I have yet to see a lawsuit feed an elk or deer.
The CBM is a tricky situation, wwe simply must have power and fuel available in our own country. It is one thing to toss out contaminated toys from China, but a whole nother thing to import basic neccesities of life that may or may not be a problem. That is one reason the oil companies and the state of Wyoming are working so hard to find solutions for the grouse. It would do no good to shut all of the wells and drilling down and put our countries well being in jepordy, only to find out the grouse are dying from West Nile and predators.
We only have to look at our election antics to realize those with power never have enough, and the same is true of those with money.
I don't care how well meaning Turner is, when one man owns the most land of anyone in the US, he can push his wishes good or bad, and that is dangerous in my opinion. On the other hand, I would not stop him buying, but I would work to make it possible for the original owners to keep their home and land.
What is not clear to me from this article is why the state sold off the land in the first place?
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