By Nate Schweber, 7-08-05
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| Caption: Stokes, top, photographed in High Country News in 2003. Franken, bottom. |
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Stokes is no more a representative of conservative values in Montana than is New LeftWest. Stokes is a xenophobic knucklehead deserving of immediate hospitalization with a force-feed IV of 100% common sense. . . and a serious dosage of valium.
Al Franken Missoula-bound? Listen up quickly as Air America's sagging ratings may totally bottom out soon.
Nate, great piece. Folks interested in the economics of talk radio should also check out David Foster Wallace's recent piece in the Atlantic. It's a somewhat chilling account of how anger & hate are ginned up for the sake of ratings, among other things.
Comment By Brodie Farquhar, 7-09-05There's a nice piece about Stokes in Grist (http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2005/07/08/kavanagh/)this week. The article makes a good point, based on Goebble's tenet that if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes true, or at least accepted as true by people who are predisposed to believe the worst about their political/cultural opponents.
On a smaller scale, that's happening here in Fremont County, Wyoming. Although the Lander and Riverton newspapers are rational, there is a county-wide publication called The Advertiser. A shopper with gobs of classified and display ads, The Advertiser has a few pages of editorial content, which typically includes anti-wolf, anti-grizzly bear, anti-feds and anti-state rants that are long on emotion and short on facts.
Publisher Mike Rinehart even printed an article (See High Country News at http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=14760), which gave advise on how to poison wolves. What then happened was a spate of dog poisoning cases in Wyoming and Idaho, as dogs ate poisoned hot dogs left for wolves. (There's no evidence that any wolves died.)
Fremont County Commissioners have passed resolutions stating that grizzlies and wolves are not socially acceptable anywhere in the county. The commissioners are also agitated that the Wind River Reservation may turn out to be something of a sanctuary for wolves and grizzlies, because the Shoshone and Northern Arapaho have very different cultural perspectives than their Anglo neighbors.
Makes for a very interesting situation.
--Brodie Farquhar
It's nice to know liberal talking radio is spreading to the home base of New West. As the spanky new New West Aspen editor, I'm also happy to report my own liberal talk show "Con Games" is growing in the Aspen-Vail-Rifle market from Monday at 3 to 4 PM to Monday-Wednesday-Friday in the same time slot. Our slogan: "Making the World Safe for Liberals." As of this moment I am the only liberal talk radio alternative in the Roaring Fork Valley -- or from Vail all the way to Rifle. More good news: my show is bumping "The Sean Hannity Show" which will no longer have a home in this market.
Are you ready to apologize now, Sean?
A final note: I've tried very hard to listen to both sides on my show -- to define liberalism as a moral imperative, but also to allow EVERYONE to have a say (without shouting them down) regardless of their place on the spectrum. Callers on both sides have responded favorably to that approach or we wouldn't be growing.
I don't think the two sides are as far apart as everybody thinks.
Best, Michael Conniff!
I started a month after Franken,
Nate- Thanks for finding New West and for contributing. It is a perfect match. This news is a ray of sunshine for the valley, I've been listening to Air America since day one on the internet / the radio would be even better, the icing on the cake would be a full broadcast of Democracy Now and the Nate Weber Show.
Nothing has come close to your verve on air.
Keep it up and see / hear you soon.
Your pal,
Uncle Carl
Nice review of the changing radio market in Western Montana, although I've got a couple contentions. First, its important to note that John Stokes' day has passed.
While his firebrand style once commanded a listenership here in Montana, his rhetoric is now ignored by anyone around long enough to recognize his name. We've heard all of it before, and while he can be entertaining (and perhaps informative into the mindset of a certain, almost microscopic demographic) any person with the ability to reason has long tuned him out- just note that he's almost without advertisers anymore. Few want anything to do with his alienating message, even those that share similar libertarian principals of smaller government and more personal freedoms.
That said, I'm not calling your giving him a platform irresponsible. I'm saying that his slumping ratings, inability to get advertising dollars and current absense from the public discourse in our state are tangible indications that his role in the Montana radioscape is already a thing of the past.
Of course New West isn'the only one who missed his passing- a fauning, almost deifying article in the High Country News last year did the same. (Disclosure: I'm a photojournalist, I shot the picture of Stokes that NewWest took from the High Country News site to accompany Nate Schweber's piece- it originally appeared in The Missoula Independent many years ago when Stokes WAS a player worthy of note.)
But its worth observing that neither Schweber nor the author of the HCN piece live in the region (the HCN's Ray Ring lives in Bozeman.) Of course you don't have to live in an area to write about it. But as neither author lives within hearing range of the low-power, short-range AM-band broadcasts that Stokes uses to broadcast. So to say that
"For years Stokes has been the loudest and most controversial conservative voice in Montana."
is misleading- yes he's controversial, yes he's (by some standards) conservative, but a small, almost unnoticeable transmitter outside of Kalispell hardly constitutes the "loudest" voice in Montana.
Although the regional and online media keep telling Montanans that he's a player in our state's collective opinions, he's not, and there is really no indication that Montanans will at any point begin finding his personal rants relevant. Fortunately, Air America's launch in Western Montana comes with a larger transmitter, and more importantly a message based on something other than hate.
Want to thank you all for taking the time to read and respond to my story about radio in Montana.
Thanks in particular to you, Chad, for your thoughtful response (not to slight Jonathan or Uncle Carl!). I had some thoughts.
While Stokes' advertising base is shrinking, at least according to the folks at the Montana Human Rights Network, signs of his strong political influence continue to abound in the regional media. During my conversation with Stokes he boasted about "calling out the troops and getting them down to the meeting" when he learned that the commissioners in Flathead County were considering a moratorium on all growth until a new growth policy could be written. The 7/7/05 Independent has a news article, "Growth Smoke but No Fire" by Paul Peters, which reports that "most people who came and spoke (at said meeting) were against an absolute moratorium."
Who knows whether those anti-moratorium speakers learned about the meeting from Stokes, or perhaps from American Dream Montana, a property rights group that shares Stokes' anti-growth planning views and regularly runs ads in the Daily Inter Lake. Dream's most recent ad showed a picture of favorite whipping-boy, growth-moratorium proposing commissioner Joe Brenneman, with the words, "Your job threatened by: 'Green' Agenda."
Unsurprisingly, the moratorium idea went down.
Whether or not Stokes and Russ Crowder, founder of American Dream Montana, coordinate their media blitzes, the effect they have is like an echo chamber. This not only emboldens the minority of the population who share their views into disproportionately flexing their political muscle, it also intimidates people who disagree from flexing theirs. The problem was laid out best in Mark Keefe-Feldman's Indy cover on 5/5/05, which I linked to in my story.
So it is in Stokes' continuing capacity to inspire, synergize with, and give another media ally to like-minded groups and individuals that I say his voice is the state's "loudest." Not in the amount of watts his puny station kicks out. He doesn't sway opinions, but he helps incite a radical minority to political action. No other jockey in the state has that kind of clout, diminished as it may be from Stokes' heyday when his message was fresh.
But you're right about the media latching onto Stokes. I hope you will all join me tonight in watching "The Fire Next Time" on PBS which features Stokes. If you didn’t see the link in my story, here's a Bloomberg news article about the documentary: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000088&sid=avA3JIBCHoEo&refer=culture
Mostly I hope y'all will listen to Air America. The Missoulian's webpage has a video of columnist Jamie Kelly talking about how suh-weet this Thursday's Entertainer's article about Air America will be.
So read, then listen.