In Montana, Human Rights Group Sees Surge in White Supremacist Activity
By Daniel Testa, 10-06-09
Saying they were concerned about the rights of white people, five demonstrators gathered in Kalispell Saturday evening on the sidewalk next to Depot Park, with one man waving a flag for the Creativity Movement and others holding hand-lettered signs at the cars passing by, which occasionally honked in support. Though small, the Kalispell rally was in line with what the Montana Human Rights Network has identified as “an upswing in white supremacist activity recently” in the state.
A 20-year-old Kalispell woman who would only identify herself as “Kat,” and who held a sign reading “Affirmative Action = Racism,” said she organized the demonstration to show, “how everyone has their own rights but the whites don’t.”
“If we say something about us being white we’re automatically racist and I don’t think that’s right,” she added. “Blacks have their entire month.”
A few feet away, another man held a sign reading, “It’s not illegal to be white…yet.” Another woman held a sign reading, “Communism is Globalism.”
Next to her a man wearing a tie and wool hat waved the flag for the Creativity Movement, a group identified by the Montana Human Rights Network as, “a white supremacist group promoting a racist ideology.”
The man with the flag also declined to give his name, but said he was a member of the Montana Creativity’s Movement’s Kalispell chapter, which has a membership of less than five.
“It’s designed around the survival, the advancement and the expansion of the white race,” he said. “We believe that the white race is nature’s finest, just from looking through history at the different civilizations that have existed.”
The other demonstrators interviewed said they were not part of the Creativity Movement, but were affiliated with other groups they declined to name.
Travis McAdam, executive director of the Montana Human Rights Network, who monitored the rally’s organization on the white nationalist Web site, Stormfront.org, called it “pretty significant” that five people showed up to demonstrate on a cool, blustery day.
“The fact that they were able to turn out more than one or two people is concerning,” McAdam said. “They’re probably pretty happy with the turnout they had.”
In September the Bozeman Daily Chronicle reported on an increase in Creativity Movement literature and graffiti in Bozeman, with a national leader for the Illinois-based group quoted as saying as many as six or seven new chapters had recently sprung up in Montana.
Billings teenager Allen Goff, an organizer of a Creativity Movement chapter there, currently faces charges for allegedly shooting another teen in the leg, though it’s unclear whether the shooting was racially motivated.
At the Kalispell rally, the man carrying the flag disputed the characterization of the Creativity Movement as a hate group, saying, “We don’t hate people, we just love our race.”
But McAdam said the literature upon which the Creativity Movement is based, like, “The White Man’s Bible,” by its founder, Ben Klassen, espouse a racist ideology.
“Most of the folks who say that, who are part of these groups, know that it’s a lie,” McAdam said. “Within the Creativity Movement there is no doubt, if you read the foundational texts of the group, they are a white supremacy group.”
“A history of violence has followed the Creativity Movement around since its founding in the 1970s,” McAdam added.
On the Web site for the Montana Creativity Movement, photos show men with shaved heads, often posing with guns and saluting its flag, which is red with a large “W” that stands for the “White Race.” Other photos show music concerts on stages flanked by the Creativity Movement flag, along with swastikas and paintings of white-robed Ku Klux Klansmen. Many of the photos are captioned with the term, “RaHoWa,” which stands for “Racial Holy War.”
In her posting on Stormfront.org notifying readers of the Kalispell rally, Kat urged anyone showing up not to show swastikas.
“We are going to keep the Swazis out of it,” she wrote. “This is only our first one of many to come. We are going to start showing people we are here without bringing in the Nazi stuff.”
At the Kalispell rally, the man with the flag handed out a flier explaining, “we believe that what is good for the White Race is the highest virtue, and what is bad for the White Race is the ultimate sin.” The literature on the flier is attributed to Matt Hale, the second national leader of the Creativity Movement, currently serving a 40-year sentence for soliciting an undercover FBI agent to kill a federal judge.
Standing on the sidewalk holding a sign written in Nordic runes, Brian Gray said he moved to Kalispell a year ago from Pittsburgh because the Flathead “is still a decent culture.”
“I’m concerned that our society is degrading into a Gomorrah or Sodom type debacle,” Gray said. “We were a nation of morals and now we’re a nation of immorality.”
When asked why he was holding a sign written in a foreign language, Gray replied, “if anybody can read it, then I want them to.”
According to several Web sites with alphabetical translations of Nordic and Celtic symbols, Gray’s sign said: “(expletive) off my favorite brother … I’m not going anywhere!”
[End of article]What's the problem? Some of best friends are poor white folks who are overcompensating for their lack of money and self esteem.
Comment By Larry Kralj, Environmental Rangers!, 10-06-09RaHoWa! I'm not positive, but I THINK that's Nordic for "Yes, I'm an inbred yahoo"! These creativity folk are living proof that one shouldn't have relations with family members!
Comment By Don Lewis, 10-07-09Montana Human Rights Network is just another "progressive" organization that supports Card-Check, universal health care, and the usual litany of "tax the productive" and "give to us" programs out there. Just search the net for them. It's in their best interest economically to find that a group of 5 cold knuckleheads is a serious upswing in Montana hate.
Racists live everywhere. I can find more of them, of all colors, in any big city then in the totality of all of Montana.
Don Lewis:
I'm assuming that you do not "support Card-Check, universal health care" and contemnation of White Nationalism.
I do. And I am curious about what it may be about Montana Human Rights Network and progessivism in general which offends you.
Um, Don, do you even UNDERSTAND what universal health care means? Here, allow me to help you. "Universal" simply means that EVERYONE HAS IT! It AIN'T rocket science. Anyone can understand it. Why would you be against everyone in the country having health insurance? By WHAT strange reasoning could that be construed as detrimental or subversive? You see, Don, the VAST MAJORITY of Americans believe that health care, or taking care of their families, IS a family value. Please do explain your objections in detail, for I want to be able to obliterate them point by point. I take a kind of perverse pleasure in that. Providing health care for ALL Americans would be the single biggest boost to the economy imaginable! Why do you hate people w/o health care, and why do you want our economy to be depressed? I'll wait.
Comment By Stuart Klein, 10-07-09What a bunch of Neandrathals!
They are the last dying gasps of an inbred so called white culture that are soon going to be relegated to the minority status. And the sooner the better!!
You goddamn racist bastards.
And you don't even have the balls to give your names!
Five morons standing in the cold with signs is a "surge"?! This does not even deserve public notice. I am sure they love the fact that you wrote about them. They are inconsequential and insignificant to put it mildly. Let them be forgotten.
Comment By Patia, 10-07-09Racism is dumb.
Comment By Ollie, 10-08-09Right on, Elfman. Why the coverage? Let them promote their view of 'race' if they want. Let them exercise their right to peaceful assembly and forget them. Let the indignation stem from the fact that someone views this as actual 'News'.
Comment By Monty, 10-09-09William Manchester in his book, "A World Lit Only By Fire" describes the 14th century human mind as a "melange of incessant warefare, corruption, lawlessness, obsession with strange myths and an impenetrable mindlessness". This description fits many of these fringe groups. These fools may not deserve our attention but they can become dangerous with their unbalanced minds.
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-09-09The human mind hasn't changed since the 14th century. Some cultures have advanced. Others have not. Human civilization is still at the mercy of those whose cultures, sub-cultures and educational systems encourage a "melange of incessant warfare, corruption, lawlessness, obsessions with strange myths and an impenetrable mindlessness".
Comment By horst, 10-09-09Which of the cultures have changed, Mick?
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-09-09The post industrial democracies have advanced the most. But the change obviously isn't complete because there are plenty of elements attempting to drag civilization back to the stone age.
Comment By horst, 10-09-09I'm more of the opinion its been downhill since the stone age.
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-09-09Its hard to see the stone age as the apogee of human development but if you watch Chimps it easy to see how humans might have inherited negative character traits from ancient ancestors. However, if you watch Bonobos, it becomes clear that warlike quarrelsome primates can evolve into peaceful ones.
Comment By horst, 10-09-09I think of homo sapiens in the same way I think of the mold on a slice of bread...apologies to Loren Eiseley
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-10-09Effective, non toxic, home remedies for bread mold are vinegar and freezing.
Comment By horst, 10-10-09Nothing more popular than frozen vinegar bread.
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-10-09The closer to the poles you get, the more popular it becomes. Most wildlife will eat it during the winter.
Comment By Dave Skinner, 10-10-09You might be interested to know the Beacon comments had to be shut down after a single day. Pretty bad. Shameful, actually.
Shameful that there are ignorant creatures like that, too.
A long time ago, in a park far away, I used to play chess with some old guys who had numbers. I asked if they were in the Navy or something. No, in a camp. What kind of camp? And from there it went. So, for a couple of summers we played chess and talked about stuff.
I was old enough to understand what was being said, but not really understand what I was being told, or why. I'll never fully understand what happened. I do understand it was a gift...a terrible gift but nonetheless a gift.
I know I am stepping on a landmine, but how many village idiots are we talking about here? The article says 5 people, but mentions other chapters. 30 in all Montana? Instead of this being a surge, couldn't it just be the last scattered bits that natural selection has left us with? Or is the easiest way to get an article written about your group... Read More just to adopt some silly regalia? The picture of that guy in the article reminds me of the guy in Animal House who takes over the marching band at the end of the movie. I'm sure the nutters were delighted with the coverage though...
Comment By Jay Greene, 10-10-09I have observed a resurgence of hate groups since the last election. There is no question in my mind that a large portion of our citizenry objects to the presence of a black man in the white house.
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-10-09They would be O.K. with a black man in the White House as long as he was the butler, waiter, shoeshine boy, janitor or piano player. In other words, black folks who know their "place".
Comment By Friday, 10-10-09To Phil and other that think that this kind of reporting is wasteful, please read David Neiwart and his documentation on the rise of violence amongst nationalists and supremacists. It didn't take many people to bomb the Fed building in OK City, it took a few more to fly some planes into the towers, and it only takes a few to create a climate of fear for minorities.
Since you're in Idaho, and probably white as snow, you'd never know what that kind of fear can do to people.
Well I am another Nordic white guy in Montana, but don't follow any racist ideologies. In fact I voted for Obama. That being said, the article brings up a good point. Affirmative action is a racist policy. There are a lot of white folks like me who have not been able to gain permanent employment with the Forest Service or Park Service because of affirmative action. It gives preference to blacks and other minorities. All that college education and the employment market is not a level playing field? Leaves folks a little upset. Making up for the past gets old. Will our children still have to pay the price and step aside for equality?
Comment By Bozeman Mom, 10-12-09As I was driving down main street in Bozeman yesterday I saw these flags being waved at passing motorists. I thought they were idiots even before I knew what they were trying to represent. Thank goodness my kids didn't see them.
Comment By Friday, 10-13-09Clayton Cramer, Southern Idaho's Racist:
http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2009_10_04_archive.html#1733951171715740247
Unfortunately my daughter and wife were driving down main street in Bozeman and saw them too.. My wife is black and my daughter is mixed race, and they were both pretty upset. For a moment I too felt a wiff of fear; it only takes one unbalanced person to throw a rock through your window or worse.They may be just a few boneheads, but don't underestimate their ability to cause trouble and to spread fear. Fortunately the whole Bozeman community has responded aggressively; the City Commission is talking about a motion to condemn them and there will be a groundswell of opposition to make it clear that this community does not tolerate hate.
Comment By Phil Hardy, 10-13-09I appreciate everyone's point of view and feeling repulsed by people who have contrary or even ridiculous views is our birthright. However, for me, there is some over-reaction here. And while I am in Idaho, I spent years living overseas and without making this sound dramatic, lived within either city blocks or a few miles of 4 terrorist bombings during this time, as did my young family. Let us not move to elevate these people to the status of Timothy McVeigh simply because they exist. I realize that living in Montana or Idaho may not be the most exciting place for spectaculars, but these people in the article are few in number, they are clearly misguided and we all may find their opinions repugnant, but all of this anecdotal evidence of this huge groundswell of evil rising due to the election of a mixed race man is just a little too dramatic for me. Would you all be as upset if a few of the Nation of Islam members were standing out there spewing their somewhat unusual beliefs? If these people are involved with criminal activity, call the police. If not, ignore them.
Comment By horst, 10-13-09Phil is the voice of sophistry.
Comment By seasonal only, 10-13-09To Phil and Horst, my congratulations to you guys for being able to ignore the 800 pound Gorilla in the room. Making progress is easy isn't it?
Comment By Phil Hardy, 10-13-095 people, one in the most ludicrous outfit, equal an 800 pound primate.
OK then, we have a problem. What do we do? Send them to Gitmo?
Frankly, I would drive my kids over there, park and explain to them what they were all about and tell my kids this isn't what is expected of them. Anything I'm missing?
A 20-year-old Kalispell woman who would only identify herself as “Kat,” and who held a sign reading “Affirmative Action = Racism,” said she organized the demonstration to show, “how everyone has their own rights but the whites don’t.”
This rally was organized by a 20 year old gal who wanted to bring attention to affirmative action. Maybe she is having trouble finding work with the gov.?? The fact that she brought in some clowns so close to halloween is bad judgement. But her brain is still maturing, so cut her some slack. All I'm saying is what I said before. Affirmative action is a racist policy. Ignore it if you can, but my kids will hear about it as part of the discussion about the clowns in the funny suits.
Gorilla's name is Andy
Andy Kanghettajob ...say hello to the nice folks..excuse him..he's a little hungry...
Opinions are usually based on feelings. Only occasionally based on data. The Southern Poverty Law Center collects data relevant to the subject on this thread. http://www.splcenter.org/
Comment By Phil Hardy, 10-13-09Mickey, I just went tot he SPLC website and read the three articles on the rise of the new militias. Without wanting to cast doubt or prejudice the content of the articles, I must say that I found it strange that not one of the three articles had any quotes, direct or indirect from a single member of law enforcement corroborating the content. So while there was a lot of information on these groups, no local, state or national law enforcement officer could be found to confirm the findings of these journalists? Again, the story in New West was about 5 sad, misguided individuals. I need more.
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-13-09If you don't believe someone's data, ask for sources and methodology. Under present law, law enforcement agencies can't begin spying without probable cause to suspect preparation for illegal activity. As far as I can tell, Its not illegal to form a militia or a hate group.
Comment By Friday, 10-13-09Hate groups with similar motif's of those that lynched and murdered in the past, but we should just ignore them because they're "clowns".
Good idea. I'm sure their future victim(s) will be overjoyed.
Has anyone pointed out the Minutemen group that murdered a family, including young children a few months ago? Good thing that these guys are harmless.
Mickey you are dense. This is about white people not able to get jobs because of affirmative action. Pretty simple concept, but hate groups will thrive on it, given the chance. Now with a minority as President, white folks probably want an equal shot at those career jobs with the gov. and think affirmative action should be tossed out. Don't you guys all agree??
Comment By Friday, 10-13-09Yep, you're totally right. It is only about affirmative action, the swastika is just their new symbol!
FTA: "We just love our race."
Whats wrong with that, when you happen to be the majority that has such a great history of treating minorities as equal?
Anyone have a picture of a drinking fountain with the "whites only" sign? They just loved their race, too.
Some of my best friends are poor unemployed white folks but their joblessness is not caused by affirmative action.
Comment By seasonal only, 10-13-09Friday you are just another clown...
Comment By seasonal only, 10-13-09Mickey, not following the logic there. Never claimed it stopped folks from working. I went into business for myself, eventually. Affirmative action(repeat after me) is a racist policy...until we get to that point, there is no real discussion. Only polarizing comments that evade the real issue at hand.
raise your hand if you know what affirmative action does? Now let's talk about the repercussions of that policy and how it fueled hate groups in the early 21 century?
Hate groups that used affirmative action as their basis are still hate groups. Everything else is just polarizing comments that evade the real issue at hand.
Or in the words of South Park: "They're here to take our jorbs!"
Honk honk.
Friday,
at least you are a clown with a sense of humor :)
sure there are choices involved, but pressures too. Peace.
I see these pitiable thugs waving their signs and think back to the pitiful putches which led to Adolf Hitler's becoming the most powerful man in Europe.
Their scapegoats were queers, gypsies, labor unions, cripples and eventually Jews--in the hope of throwing a bone to anti-semites everywhere.
No need to keep your panties all in a bunch about affirmative action. Affirmative action was originally needed as a remedial measure for groups (including white women) who were historically discriminated against in the work place. But even as we speak, affirmative action is evolving into a program to help the economically disadvantaged (poor people) regardless of race or sex.
Comment By seasonal only, 10-14-09Maybe affirmative action was needed in the past. Now , with a minority President, it draws attention to itself as a racist policy. See how things have shifted? for whatever good it does now, it will always bring fuel to the fire for the poor white guy. That woman with the sign was 100% correct and that will gain traction and momentum. Rush loves this kind of stuff and is our only am radio out here in the sticks..(not much for choices)
Watch and see...
It would be better if you could actually prove that AA has completed its goals. Maybe then you might have a point. Otherwise you're just being led to emotional results via your own xenophobic and/or tribal nature.
We're all racists in some form or another, to some degree or another, but we're not all consciously ignoring the elephant in the room. Minorities are not treated as equals in this country.
Honk honk
Fly that by one more time. We got the first black president in the history of the republic for less than a year now and poor white trash folks are feeling discriminated against. Ever wonder how poor black trash felt with a white president all these hundreds of years, not to mention poor alcoholic Indian trash living on reservations in abandoned cars. Even if you are poor white trash, you should have brains enough to connect the dots instead of believing everything right wing idiots tell you.
Comment By seasonal only, 10-14-09Yeah they are feeling discriminated against. And a lot of those folks went to college and have degrees in order to get those good Gov. jobs.
I don't think there will ever be an agreement on when 'equality' is met. Taking away affirmative action will leave hurt feelings for others, I realize. I guess I'm of the belief that if you get the real issues out in the open, folks will better understand. The media isn't much help there. To me this little parade was about people needing work and it get's twisted into something causing fear for folks hundreds of miles away.
Where is hometown, by the way? just curious.
Racism and Ethnic Pride are still different to me. I guess I have enough native and questionable other genetics to make me a little accepting of everybody, but still have pride in my Viking heritage. Nobody really cares. maybe that was the other part of her message. People are out of work and nobody cares.
What does south park have to say about that?
As I recall, section chiefs were permitted to select from the top three candidates.
I knew a few of really good seasonal temps whose mouths managed to get them deselected even when they were clearly the best qualified. The old-fashioned GSA took the office morale into consideration...
Jay,
what's your point? Up in Alaska they have found a way to hire around affirmative action. Since their state constitutuion says that all people are equal, they go with that. No need to try and tip the scales.
I think this thread has beat the horse enough, most of the hotheads have dropped out through attrition.
White folks that know how to work the system will still find permanent jobs, those that have their pride in mind just get tired of it and go elsewhere for jobs. IMHO
Good thing there is no racism:
"A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else.""
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091015/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff
seasonal, you have no idea what the minorities go through all over the country.
It sounds to me as though Seasonal Only may have been in the same class with Thatr JP. Not a single clue for either of them.
Comment By seasonal only, 10-16-09JedRed you are just talking out your a*s now
what does your clown suit look like?
Friday,
I see what you are showing me and I don't dispute it. folks in MT are somewhat insulated from different races, but not shut out of the game. As things get tough for people, they will start to lash out and the demonstration shows a perversion of that. Not what people around here want to see, but behind the scenes, things still go on. local politics are not kept fair, just like everywhere else. I guess we can agree that things aren't equal yet, but I wanted to show you that it is not so much about hate as hunger. Old views will fade in a short time, but new beliefs are being born every day. What shapes them is their environment. Stresses cause people to do ugly things and is a haven for the haters.
Back to my original point, that affirmative action may still help minorities find permanent employment, but the backlash from that racist policy is fertile ground for the right wing conservatives and clowns to pad their ranks.
I'm not here to sling mud, just enlighten a little. Probably a waste of time....good day.
That you can convince yourself that you might enlighten somebody is reminiscent of the original notions behind the Klan.
Comment By Friday, 10-16-09Look, seasonal, I'm just saying that you're willfully blind to the fact that these racists are using "anti-affirmative action" to hide their real intentions. A reasoned debate on affirmative action doesn't involve flags and rampant nationalism, or should it involve a group that believes that the "white race" is superior. Unless you are admitting that you tried to threadjack this forum, then you're defending those that used a fake protest in order to get their bigoted views into the public eye. While they may have a debatable point in anti-affirmative action, they ruined their chances to discuss it rationally when their foundation's documents include things like "The White Man's Bible".
Comment By seasonal only, 10-16-09Yup, I pretty much agree with that Friday. That girl who organized this protest showed very bad judgement. I don't read any bible, but believe God is there to guide us. would rather not get spiritual here and I don't like to preach. nuf said.
Your gonna have to explain a "threadjack". I'm just sitting at home, out of work, voicing my opinion. Don't even have a magazine subscription. If im honest i don't have to be too clever.
You guys are not blind to Fox tv and Rush and all those insane arguments? Well since the election it has caused a rift in my family and it grows. I hear them repeating the "gosspill" and after enough times they believe it. death panels..It is wierd. I've studied cults and that's all I'll say about that..
so, I have not defended the white supremecists or the neo-cons. I don't really want them too mad at me either, I have to live around them. I'll leave that to you guys. I've pretty much said my peace with this. Unless you want to learn more, but I have no inside information or statistics to show, just observations. Take it for what you will.
"people are out of work and nobody cares" Its true, but you got to be smart enough to know who to blame. The fat cats and the top of the economic pyramid have snookered poor people into fighting over crumbs that "trickle down" to them. Affirmative action isn't to blame. If you're a life long seasonal its because the Feds have allocated enough funds to hire you full time. 2 or 3 decades ago the Federal Land management agencies didn't have any Female District Rangers or District Managers. Now, by damn, their all over the place and they are mostly white, thanks to affirmative action. Tell every politician in your state that its their primary duty to make sure you have a job regardless of your sex or skin color.
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-16-09correction: line 5-haven't, line 8-they're
Comment By seasonal only, 10-16-09IF our senator Baucus makes it into another term, he can take a shot a reforming affirmative action. Right now he is having a hard time with health care reform. Seams the insurance companies want to treat us like cattle and force us under thier policy. I wish him luck on that, but feel he is trapped, and we will have to free ourselves. Yes corporations wield a lot of power over the people and keep us fighting amongst ourselves. Trickle down does not work. Follow the money, see who is really pulling the strings...
Comment By Mickey Garcia, 10-16-09The large financial institutions that are too big to fail and the politicians that kiss their asses are to blame. Big Banking, Big Finance, Big insurance, Big pharma, Big medical etc. They have used their tremendous wealth and lobbying power to accomplish a coup d'etat of the federal government so that they're running the government. The tail is wagging the dog so to speak.
Comment By Jay Greene, 10-16-09"Follow the money, see who is really pulling the strings..."
And then what?
..and then what?
"and we will have to free ourselves."
Ok Jay, you asked. If you don't like my answer, then don't ask me the question.
I'm not making a call to action, just saying people will get pushed so far. The more pressure there is, the uglier things will get. We have already seen a rise in armed robberies in Missoula and a racist demonstration in Kalispell last week. Unfortunately a few individuals make an easier target than taking on say Morgan Chase, for example. It's just easier to fight amongst ourselves than to focus our attention on who is really pulling the strings and making life miserable for some. Know thyself, love thy neighbor and pull the bricks out of the big boys. oh, and unplug Rush(or at least offer some other stations). To me that works in the short run. After that I don't know? They say democracy is the best gov we have? But it is still able to squash our original constitution, jeopardize our standard of living and health and slowly eat away our freedoms. Nevermind the global empirealism we never bargained for. Taking it back will be a desperate act, I think. Leave the Baez records at home for this one!
How come we don't have a prominent 'green party' to look after the people? Should have been happening since the 70's....
800 pound Andy might like that
You seem to swing that "we" around quite easily.
I'm betting you are just about as capable of drawing a crowd as a turd in a punchbowl. Americans, generally, are pretty possessive of the word; but, at least recently, quite incapable of acting as a group. Even mobs have become rare when it comes to getting something done. Our government usually pays less attention to us than the ayatollahs in Iran. Patriotic swagger is one thing but changing society is quite another.
Yeah I'm no demonstration leader. Maybe you want the job?
You can call it the Greene Party!
Nahhh. I'm no leader either; but then I don't throw around the we word much.
Comment By Smart-V-Wise, 10-17-09Of coures racism is alive in well not only in Montana, but in all of America. For proof, just look at how Condoleezza Rice, and Clarence Thomas are treated.
Comment By Horst, 10-17-09Who?
Comment By j davis, 11-15-09I was visiting family in Kalispell and was unfortunate enough to have seen the demonstrators. I was with some friends and decided some old fashioned fun would be in order-mooned em !!
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