By Hal Herring, 3-29-06
The creature, whatever it is, came out of Montana's own McCone County, wandering from the rough breaks of Timber Creek, just south of the Big Dry Arm of Fort Peck Reservoir, and the CM Russell Wildlife Refuge. Where it had wandered before that, Canada or North Dakota, nobody knows.One very real possiblity that has not been discussed is that the animal is the offspring of a female wolf bread by either a dog or coyote. Certainly this has happened with other introduced wolf populations, requiring authorities to capture the female and destroy the pups. As widespread as the wolves in this part of the country are and as many as there are, it is an idea that needs to be considered.
Comment By Ralph, 3-30-06It is possible it is as Marion suggests, but this is nothing new. It's called the eastern coyotes, which is much larger than the western coyote, and probably has wolf genetics and maybe dog.
There are maybe a million or so of these in the eastern US, but I haven't heard of such widespread killing.
There is one very big difference....Protection! The eastern coyotes are able to be killed, not the western Canadian bred wolves. They are perfectly safe unless caught in the act, and then only certain designated people can be the one to kill them. That is why the trapper/gunner was unable to shoot when he saw it. If indeed it is a wolf, he is facing huge fines, jail, etc.
I suspect ranching is a little different in the east than it is out here where there is a lot of open space between places for animals to hide.
There seems to be some massive confusion in the post above. Coyotes are not protected much anywhere, but returning to the matter of mystery animal in Eastern Montana. I think it is a wolf or a wolf hybrid. More likely it is a hybrid because while it is a prolific killer, it is not an efficient killer like most true wolves.
In any case it, or anything that looks like it, should be shot on sight. If it is a wolf hybrid, no problem. If it is a wolf, no problem either because even a wolf in this designated "endangered area" can be killed after so many depredations. What if another (wrong) wolf in the area is shot? Not likely. This is far from the established wolf populations in Montana. I'm saying I don't think there are any other wolves running around in the area besides this wolf or hybrid.
Who's confused, there is not the widespread killing by the coytoes precisely because they can and are hunted. The hunter was told explicitly that he could NOT kill the animal when he reported that it looked like a wolf. The wolves are protected across the whole state, and the law applies, period, no matter how far away anyone thinks they or others may be. I think you already know that is the law, right or wrong, and the rancher is helpless to change it.
Comment By Joe The Native Texan, 3-30-06The killings sound like the work of dogs to me. Dogs, both tame and wild, will pack together at night and go on killing sprees over great distances. Larger animals such as horses and grown cattle are about the only livestock exempt from the killing and that is because they can run away and dogs do not normally chase down prey when they pack up. Many years back everyone in our rural area lost grown hogs, goats, sheep, and half-grown cattle. The culprits turned out to be neighborhood pets.
Virtually all the pet dogs of any size were quickly terminated by their owners. From what I have read about coyotes and wolves they tend to avoid expending energy to kill unless they intend to eat. Of course, if wolf/dog hybrids begin to appear, and the traits of both survive the corss breeding the effect on a flock of sheep might be devastating.
They can tell by the tracks that it is a single animal. If you truly believe that wolves or coyotes will only kill what they can eat, first check out the stories of the attacks on sheep by the woves, it is not uncommon for them to kill 20 or more in a night and maim many more.
The coyotes who do the same are not as well documented in recent reprots so you will need to talk to those who raise sheep, but I can tell you that when I was a kid 50 years ago we would find our sheep dead and wounded until my Dad was able to catch and kill the coyote responsible that time.
With the animal's identity in question, could not the pilot and gunner have darted it for capture? At least the killing would be stopped and they would not run the risk of running afoul of the law.
A question: If a young wolf was deprived of the hunting lessons given by the pack, would it then hunt inefficiently as described?
I seriously doubt that the hunter would have had the sedative to use for darting. That sort of thing is usually controlled I'm sure and must be given by those trained in it's use. If you stop and think even trained biologists have accidently killed animals with those sedatives when darting them. I don't think you folks understand how serious the laws are regarding protections afforded wolves. Killing one, even accidently, could cost the person killing it everything they owned and had spent a life time getting, plus the potential for spending time in prison. That is why they called when it appeared to be a wolf, and that is why no one would assume the authority giving them permission to kill it.
REgardless of the lessons it might have learned in a pack, just being alone would undoubtedly impact the way it hunted and killed. I guess I don't understand the concern about inefficiency, it certainly killed multiple animals at a time, and injured many more, which is what canine predators do. How much more would you want it to do?
The comments re: inefficiency seemed to imply that it is not a wolf. I wondered if it might still be a wolf even though it did not predate like one. I agree that the killing has to be stopped.
Comment By Marion, 4-01-06I don't understand the inefficiency part at all, how much are they hoping to see killed and maimed, I wonder?
Comment By Connie, 4-01-06Sounds to me like it has to do more with technique than quantity. I read of people attempting to make pets of wolves and hybrids, only to find that it doesn't work. Could this be one set free by its former owner?
Comment By Marion, 4-02-06I hadn't thought of that, that's a pretty long migration, but possible I suppose. But those wolves are smaller in body too aren't they? This one has been described as pretty good sized.
Comment By John Bear, 4-04-06Hello friends, My name is John Bear Johnson. I live on the Crow Agency near Billings. I had something like this happen to my brother.
My brother lives in Sheridan county where he has a small ranch with his family. Two Thanksgivings ago we were there when the snow was very deep. Two days before Thanksgiving we were on our snow machines having some fun when we saw an animal dart into the trees. What really scared me is that it looked like a person out of the corner of my eye, I had goggles on and they were sort of foggy so I chalked it up to my eyes playing tricks on me, besides, the snow was too deep unless the man was wearing snowshoes. When Thanksgiving dinner came my uncle Pete Lowry from the Colville reservation kept on saying that I must have seen a Stick Indian (Bigfoot).
Two days after Thanksgiving we woke up early before the sun came up to pack our truck. My sister in law was out feeding the animals when we heard her scream. We ran out to her and found a horrible sight, something had killed two of her Alpacas and disemboweled them, there was blood everywhere and the Alpacas had been torn to pieces. There were tiny dog tracks everywhere and other larger tracks with them leading into the forest. The tracks were about a size 15 shoe but much wider. They looked nothing like Sasquatch tracks since they had what looked like two large toes pointing to each side. It looked like someone on snowshoes had killed them with their dogs. We had no idea who could be capable of something like this. There were no vehicle tracks on the long way down the hill and no neighbors within a few miles and we heard nothing the night before.... it was really scary. Needless to say my brother invested in a security system that uses wireless webcams to secure his house. He also bought a few dogs to warn of any intruders. He had a hard time sleeping for the rest of the winter, they came to our house for Christmas.
Last summer in august he called me on the phone nearly crying, it took me a few minutes to calm him down and give me his story. All he could say is that the kids and his wife were with her family in Dakota and he needed to drive down that night and see me. I could hear him shaking on the phone and have never heard him sound like that.
When he arrived in the morning he showed me what he had. It looked like the head of a bear or a cougar but it had no hair and cloudy eyes. It was also shaped kind of wierd with a large lower lip. It really startled me. My brother told me how he got it:
Apparently what happened is that he was helping out his neighbor on his ranch when he heard the dogs barking, the neighbor had lost quite a few sheep in the month preceeding this and my brother was positive that he had a wolf or a coyote on his hands. He rode his quad over the hill and saw the coyotes feeding on a sheep with 3 other dead ones around it. He raised his hunting rifle and shot one, to his suprise it got up on two legs and ran into the woods. He was horrified, he thought he had just killed a man who was inspecting the sheep or something. He tracked the blood trail and found the body, it was not a man. He immediately cut the head off and headed home to call me.
I have a picture of the head if anyone wants to see it. Just email me and I will try and get back to you soon. I am on the road right now so it might take me a bit.
Be careful out there people.
John Bear....
Timber wolves (the gray wolf)are not native to the Great Plains. The prairie wolf (now extinct) was a huskier, more compact, short legged animal. Read Arthur Jordan's Book "Jordan". He described a compact powerful animal that could successfully take down buffalo, with jaws that could crush bones to access the marrow. However, with this build, the animal was easy for a cowboy on a horse to run down and dispatch with a rope or with a gun. Given the fact that that all modern wolves are not of this species, they should recieve no protection on the plains. Let me know if you feel differently.
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I'd like to see the photo.
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This is a reply for John Bear. I have heard of similar sightings to what you describe in TX about a decade ago. They call them Chuppacabra's here. Please can you email the photo. Thank you and best of luck to you.
Comment By sun wu-kong, 8-10-06John Bear could you e-mail me a copy of the photo.
Comment By Sun Wu-Kong, 8-10-06John Bear could you e-mail me a copy of the photo. Have you or your brother had the tissue / hair examined to determine what it is?
Comment By Jerry, 11-17-06John Bear I was interested in seeing the photo if you could please email it too me.
thanks
It could be the Sherwood Beast!
Here is one article about it:
http://www.islandparknews.net/full.php?sid=895
And the annual tale of the beast’s haunting:
http://www.islandparknews.net/full.php?sid=898
John Bear, I'll see the photo, if it's not too much trouble. Unlike what someone else said, I don't think whatever your brother killed was a chupacabra..I've never heard of such a violent slaughter by a chupacabra.
Comment By Titen-Sxull, 12-16-06I would also like a chance to see the photo, not sure what type of creature this could be, Chupacabra usually isn't man-sized from what I've heard (plus it'd have to migrating far from its normal range)...
Comment By Tim, 12-25-06John Bear, I would like to see the photo too. thanks
Comment By Samantha Gregory, 12-31-06Did you ever find out what it was. Do you have a photo of it because I would like to see one. Email me about this please.
Comment By erik, 2-03-07Oke People stop wondering what it is *the beast
Its a tasmanian Tiger
(check this link)
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://www.exn.ca/news/images/1997/03/26/19970326-tiger.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.exn.ca/Stories/1997/03/26/03.asp&h=150&w=200&sz=11&hl=nl&start=305&tbnid=ax_2NHip28A9QM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=104&prev;=/images?q=+tiger&start=300&ndsp=20&svnum=10&hl=nl&sa=N
JOHN BEAR-PLEASE FORWARD PHOTOOF ANIMAL. I HAVE SEARCHED FOR TASMANIAN TIGER. RECENTLY RETURNED AFRICA NAMBI BEAR SEARCH. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
Comment By Brenda, 7-20-07John Bear, Could you sent me a photo of this. I had a vision last year and need to know if this was what I saw. Thank you, Brenda
Comment By Rebekkah, 8-05-07Marion if you paid attention to the picture and what people describe of it you might realize that it looks kinda like a boar. Don't hate I'm only 14 but I have a high IQ Anywhom, I spoke my opinion and no one can change
Comment By Sarah, 8-09-08John Bear, if possible could you send me the photo of the creature your brother killed. I've been very curious since I read this article earlier this year.
I will greatly appreciate if you send it to me.
John Bear, I'm sure you're tired of hearing this, but can you send me a picture.
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