By Hal Rothman, 4-10-06
Real estate and retirement in the West will certainly become intertwined and even synonymous in the very near future, but the relationship has its drawbacks. The new "wilderburbs," as the historian Lincoln Bramwell calls them, will surely gray at a faster rate than the population at large. They offer everything the retiree of the future could want: beautiful vistas, trails to walk or mountain bike, small-town, idyllic living and plenty of enticements for the children to bring their grandkids for a visit.This is a great "Part I" article. It paints a pretty gloomy picture. I'm looking forward to "Part II" that lays out the solutions to the issues laid out in the article unless the objective was just to depress us ;-). The author is obviously bright and I hope puts some of those brain cells towards solving the challenges outlined. I don't pretend I have the answers but I'm sure there are some.
Comment By tomi, 4-10-06Hal, thanks for the excellent article.
Your line "The seniors are too well organized and the young do not earn enough." certainly gets my vote as the core of the problem. At least that part of the equation can be solved.
Organization.
Organization need not mean joining a club, or a political party, or cult or whatever. Organization clearly begins with Discussion. Open, honest, self-aware, and, when need be, brutally frank about what we "the sandwich generation" want in OUR future. (all colors, all creeds)
Again, Hal, Thank you for the provocative and hopefully evocative (of change before its too late) article on the super majority color "The Grays"
PS. Grays, if you're reading this, go on and defend your position. You are our elders. Instruct Us if you Can.
let's see....more than 40 million children murdered since 1973....how many doctors? lawyers? businesspeople?.....how much have we lost and how much more do we still stand to lose?...we all know western civilization is finished (its really whether or not it will stagger through to the end of this century or die by mid-century, that's all).
By the way, did I mention that the most narcissistic generation in history - the baby-boomers who never met a sacrifice they couldn't shirk - were and are a bunch of assholes? Let's hope their children treat them as poorly at the end of their lives as the boomers treated their parents in their youth and as they treated their children in middle age (assuming they didn't abort them, of course).
You got them pegged fair, bk. The generation that that Tuned In, Turned On, and Dropped Out are the biggest sellouts the world has ever known.
In the words of Monty Python "What have the Baby-Boomers ever done for us?" What does a generation (mine) spawned by that generation (theirs)salvage in order to move on? Not a whole hell of a lot.
First, lets burn all their pathetic self help books, outlaw Prozac and Ritilin, and ban any news or media outlet that has more advertising than content.
These are my suggestions for a postive first step in the right direction. By the time I am done with the baby-boomers they are sure as hell gona wish my needy, co-dependent, perscription drug taking, uber-materialistic mother had gotten over the few pangs of consciences she felt due to being raised a Catholic and had gone ahead and made that appointment at the clinic.
But the second step is, of course, to teach my own children that there is no such thing as FREE in this world. Meaning;if a generation wants change, then they must be the ones to change it. No more shirking.
As much as I would like to sacrifice the Baby-Boomers on the alter of evil wrongdoers, Changing Them, as difficult and perhaps futile as that may seem, is our responsibility. A responsibility we would be foolish and selfish to shirk.
WE MUST NOT TREAT THEM AS POORLY as they treated their parents for if we did, like it or not, we would then BECOME them. And I won't ever do that.
To "bk" and "feel your pain": you're both jerks.
Now that I have that out of my system, as one of the boomers you callously ridicule (and one who is about to retire in a few years), I want to make a simple point. The current retirees now in possession of retirement communities in the usual list of places where such people retire ARE the folks the article criticizes. They are NOT the boomers the last two comments harangue. A 66 yr old living in Sun City AZ is not a "boomer," is not me and is not any of my contemporaries (now close to 60) who are still working for a living. We haven't retired yet!
Until and when we start to do that in significant numbers (in about 5 years), lighten up!
When we do, I assure you that our sensibilities, politics, and experiences will not play out as some disinterested 70 yr old in Vegas whose only concern in life is his next tee time. I would hope and predict that those in our generation will actually help our communities, pay our taxes, vote for libraries, empathize with those we pay to serve us, leave big tips, and live happily ever after.
One final word to the last 2 commenters: just who the hell are you anyway? The article you chose to comment on is not about abortion, drugs, christianity, or any of the usual suspects of the extreme right. Its about retirement, stupid!
I know you're not in the 40 to 60 age group, as you would then be one of us terrible boomers. So if you're old coots, shut up and go play canasta with what few brain cells you have left. If you're some arrogant yuppies, grow up and listen to your elders. Don't blame an entire generation for your own failings, you poor pathetic boobs.
And by the way, when you respond to my comment with your next round of ignorant flailings, rest assured I won't give you the satisfaction of reading them. I'm tuning out of this particular conversation, and will have to leave the job of responding to the next pissed-off boomer. Boomers, you know who you are...SPEAK UP!
Dear PH,
Please don't tune out. And all you other boomers who have something to say, please please say it. Of course "bk" and "i feel your pain" are acting like jerks!!! They want you to respond, they want attention. They need you to respond and they need your attention.
Don't abandon us, boomers! I repeat my plea: You are our elders. Instruct Us if you Can.
Most sincerly, Tomi Owens, a New West Columbia Gorge contributing writer who would like to hear from you in this venue or at and happens to think your generation has much to teach us if they would like to try so "PH" don't be afraid to email me and talk to me about any of the above nonsense or, preferable, a way to encourage dialog between the above goofballs. AGAIN, thats .