Wildlife Encounters
Moose Vs. Snowmobile Videos Prompt Warnings From Colorado Wildlife Officials
YouTube posts that show attempts at forcing moose off trails launch campaign aimed at snowmobile riders and rental companies about how to deal with wildlife in the backcountry.By Jule Banville, 3-10-11
A YouTube video, embedded below, of a snowmobile chasing a moose on a trail in Grand County, Colo., prompted the Colorado Division of Wildlife to issue warnings about interacting with moose and other wildlife.
The public education campaign is primarily aimed at snowmobilers and snowmobile rental companies. Wildlife officials say they’re seeing too many videos like the YouTube offering that show people chasing and harassing moose while riding snowmobiles.
“Moose don’t behave like deer or elk,” says DOW Area Wildlife Manager Lyle Sidener. “You can’t ‘shoo’ them off a trail. Moose don’t see people as threats and they will stand their ground, or possibly attack.”
In the video, attributed to an account publicly named “dougsheri,” the snowmobile chases the moose at a high rate of speed. At one point, the animal turns around and appears to charge the camera. Other posts on YouTube and MySpace show similar encounters with moose.
Although officials say it’s unclear where some of the videos were shot, at least one of them was taken in Grand County. No one was reported to have been injured, but officials are concerned that behavior like this could lead to injuries or death of moose and snowmobilers.
Moose sightings on snowmobile trails are common this time of year because it’s easier for them to travel on packed snow rather than the deep snow found in the high country. If a snowmobiler encounters a moose on a trail, DOW officials advise the best course of action is to go around the animal and stay as far away as possible. Trying to force it off the trail could lead to an attack.
If a moose attacks, it can be a life-threatening situation. Although moose have shed their antlers by this time of year, their hooves are their primary defense and they will kick and stomp on any perceived threat. Although attacks are rare, several people in Colorado have been injured by moose, including one fatality in 2005.
The best way to avoid a moose attack is to keep your distance. But in case of an encounter, Sidener has some suggestions for backcountry travelers.
“If you see a moose put its head down and pin its ears back, it’s a sign that an attack is likely. Put a tree, large rock or other big object between yourself and the moose, and get out of there as soon as you can,” Sidener advises.
If you are attacked, DOW officials recommend standing up if you are knocked down, and fighting back. Another suggestion: if you have your dog with you, keep it in your control at all times while in the backcountry. Moose do not distinguish dogs from wolves, their primary predator in the wild, and will aggressively attack. Dogs often run to their owners for safety and that can bring an angry, thousand-pound moose into conflict with people.
The growth and spread of moose populations, an increase in the number of people enjoying Colorado’s backcountry and advances in video technology are some of the factors that may have led to the increase in moose encounters and videotaped wildlife harassment, according to Regional Manager Ron Velarde.
“We will not tolerate harassment of wildlife and we hope that education will be enough to stop it,” Velarde said. People need to understand that harassing wildlife is dangerous, unethical and against the law. If I had seen some of these incidents in person, I would have been writing tickets to those involved.”
Sidener adds, “A snowmobile can be an excellent way to see Colorado’s backcountry, but people need to take some precautions when they encounter wildlife.”
Sidener reminds anyone who encounters wildlife to view it from a distance and, “Don’t feed, don’t approach and don’t harass.” In other words, don’t do this:
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Bubbleheads. Is it any wonder people want bubbleheads on snowmobiles banned from Yellowstone.
The protocol is to stop immediately if there is a moose in the road. If the animal is not inclined to move then we turn the sleds around if we cannot take an alternate route around it.
Winter is so hard on these guys. I wish people wouldn't consider them a 'snow sport'. If someone wants to come to Idaho and chase moose, don't. We don't watch them grow to have some idiot run them to death. We have enough to worry about with the wolves. And besides. One guy tried it once and the bull turned around, came up behind him, managed to bite and shatter his elbow. Needless to say,the guy didn't try that again.
This is NOT about moose vs. snowmobiles, but rather, about idiot yahoo snowmobilers vs. moose.
Come on, call it what it is -- some yahoo on a sled getting his kicks by harassing a moose.
Winter is hard enough on Montana game animals, without human interference like this. As a lifelong hunter, hiker, skier and general outdoor fanatic, this kind of behavior is wrong, on every level, and no one in their right mind can show otherwise.
Don't treat it so casually--your comments truly show your ethics, which are now suspect to say the least.
Dave Smith: I dare you to come to Yellowstone and take a snowmobile tour with me. You'll learn quickly that I have more respect and care more for the wildlife than your average snowcoach driver, tourist, AND cross-country skier. NPS studies have even shown that a snowmobile tour passing animals on the road is less disruptive than snowcoaches and seriously less disruptive than skiers!
Surprised?
We are a big snowmobile community here and we enjoy getting out in the mountains. But there is not a person among us who will tolerate this kind of harassment against what few animals we have left.
And Kayt, our wildife aren't taking huge hits from wolves. A moose will kick the crap out of a wolf actually, and pretty much anything else that gets in its way. I've seen it here in Idaho, and I've yet to see a wolf take down a moose, and very few large cattle for that matter. 800 to 1000 pounds and up is no match for a wolf. Calves are different, as are sheep. Just sayin.
None of that excuses the rider, who I hope is tracked down.
I can get a picture of 5 wolves pulling down a huge bull moose. So factually your information is incorrect. We see it up here daily. Cripe, we shot a wolf across the road from our house that was chasing the neighbors cat, and they've been in town due to weather. Yes, IFG know about it, and deemed it justified.
so again, we are very protective of wildlife here, and as I said before, we didn't watch them grow to have some half wit chase around in 6 feet of snow on a snowcat and kill them from stress.
Moose are not rocket scientists by any means.
A classic syndrome of moose behavior happens in Alaska every winter on the railroad. Sometimes these "chases" go for miles, but the train crews are constrained by the hours of service, and even where the railroad dips the Jordan wing and makes an escape spot, Mister or Missus Moose usually blow right on by.
So, while I don't have any sympathy for mindless harassment, I must ask....what if "home" was down that trail? Does the sledder just sit there until both starve?
Sorry, but this is way too much ado about something that was perfectly innocent.
The machine was obviously on a road or trail, came upon the Moose while riding, the Moose either jumped into the path or was in the path, quite often the Moose or other wild animal runs down the path and exits the path.
So if I was walking down the path, or better yet skiing the path, and pushed the moose along for 19 or 49 seconds before I was stomped or the Moose exits the path.. What is the difference.
The driver did right, they pushed the moose into making a decision, because if you retreat the moose might stomp you, so if the driver had tried to stop, and turn around in that narrow pathway, getting stuck in the process, the driver is risking getting stomped.
It seems to me the anti humanists are just jumping to conclusions here.
I was repeatedly amazed at how stubborn, even stupid, moose can be. Out of maybe 20 moose on the tracks, five didn't yield for at least a mile, and one met the snowplow (at about 15 MPH) and got booted into the brush, then ran off with all four legs going.
Never mind the home movies (this is well before Youtube days) of various and sundry moose "chases," including one where the engineer stopped the train just short of one of those plowed-out wide spots and then tried to creep past hoping the moose would move over, right. Nah. The moose stopped, between the rails. Engineer creeps train up to moose. Moose butts engine. Engineer toots and throttles up. Moose runs up main line.
Few miles later, the moose turned and charged. Crunch. crackle crackle.
We too have snowmobilers we wish would find another winter sport to pursue. We try to educate those we take out to respect wildlife as we do.
You might want to think twice about shooting at a snowmobiler. A lot of us ride with firearms when we're in wolf territory. We don't go to shoot wolves, but will protect ourselves if attacked.
The so-called NPS "research" you mention is actually subjective opinion that compares the reaction of bison thorougly habituated to snowmobiles traveling 100% predictable routes on roads to the reaction of non-habituated bison to random use in random places by x-c skiers.
It's a bogus comparison. You can habituate bison to x-c skiers, too. The larger question is, is this a good thing to do? Based on my experience, my subjective opinion is, non-habituated bison didn't react as strongly to skiers as non-habituated bison reacted to bubbleheads on snowmobiles.
History didn't begin in the late 1990's when the NPS required snowmobile nannies like yourself to keep the bubbleheads under control in YNP. You wouldn't have a job if bubbleheads on snowmobiles weren't bubbleheads.
If so many snowmobilers weren't jerks, they wouldn't need nannies to escort them thru Yellowstone. This ain't a case of one bad apple. Decades of experience in Yellowstone has proven bubbleheads on snowmobiles are a rotten bunch.
Bubbleheads on snowmobiles had their chance in Yellowstone for at least two decades. Bubbleheads blew it. End of story. There's just no defense for the atrocious behavior of bubbleheads.
The interesting thing about the guides is it ADDS to the pollution, but evidently enviros hope it will be demeaning enough to get rid of people.
As for the research, it actually did not include x-c skiers. That's merely anecdotal & side note-ish. And do not forget. x-c skiers (of which I am one) are allowed anywhere they can ski. Snowmobiles are allowed only on the roads. When doing any such study, you have to consider such things.
Another side note: it takes weeks, if not days, for bison and elk to become habituated to anything they commonly see. Hence, whenever it was you were in Yellowstone, you were seeing habituated animals.
The nannies should wear snowmobile suits with black bottoms and black and white stripes on top like a sports referee. Of course their helmet, gloves, boots, and snowmobile should match. Bubbleheads love to accessorize. They're big on fashion. The referee look is perfect. No mandatory requirements for sunglasses, purses, or cell phones.
Just as children learning to drive sometimes tool around in cars with a sign warning "student driver," we need to be able to identify the tourists being herded around by snowmobile nannies.
One, tourists being escorted by snowmobile nannies should be required to wear jet black snowmobile suits with white diapers worn outside their suits.
Two, the visors on their helmets should have a large pacifier attached.
She was hiking in Breckenridge, CO when the accident happened. It was about 9:45 when I got the frantic text messages. "Do I call 911? I'm hurt but I don't know how bad. I don't know where the moose went. What if it comes back? I can't find my dog. I think she is dead."
Aubrie said the attack happened so quick. She stated that she did not even know the moose was there and all of a sudden she was on the ground being kicked around like a rag doll.
After the attack I told Aubrie that she should report it but she said, "I don't want it to be killed. If I report it the cops will have to kill it." I told her that the moose would be fine and that she needed to get help immediatly.
Today Aubrie and her dog are fine and alive. Her mother is thankful that she got both her daughter and dog back alive. Moose are dangerous animals and should be respected. We all need to be aware of our surroundings when going out in moose territory. Try not to hike in areas where there have been lots of moose sightings. Moose are fun to see but just be aware.
As for the guy in the article, that is animal abuse. Animal harassment is awful and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Moose are fun to watch, but at a distance.
She got what she deserved.
Snocatters,Atv'ers cannot chase these animals. They have only the fat on their back, and it has to last them all fricking winter. It is not ok to chase any game.
Cripes, come to my house and watch them starve. It is brutal. And before you castigate me, I do feed during the winter.
But we have the occasional animal who can't feed. It is not fun, and I've had to shoot the almost dead ones. I hate it.