Cooke City Grizzly
Release Bears Who’ve Tasted Humans? ‘You Just Can’t Do That.’
An autopsy's planned on the griz sow who killed a man and injured two in Wednesday's early-morning camp attack outside of Yellowstone; the three cubs will go to the zoo in Billings.By Jule Banville, 7-30-10
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| The grizzly who attacked three at Soda Butte Campground near Cooke City. Photo courtesy of Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks. | |
UPDATE: Officials on Friday confirmed through DNA the bear they captured was the bear responsible for Wednesday’s fatal attack. She was euthanized. Her three cubs will go to ZooMontana, according to the Billings Gazette.
ORIGINAL POST: In addition to the panicked purchasing of bear spray going on in reaction to the recent campground attack by a grizzly and her cubs east of Cooke City, the Montana Dept. of Fish Wildlife and Parks is fielding an “overwhelming” amount of calls today urging the agency to release the bears back into the wild.
All four bears---the third yearling was caught this morning in a culvert trap at the Soda Butte Campground near the northeastern corner of Yellowstone National Park---are thought to be involved in the early morning attack Wednesday that left a Michigan camper dead and two others injured.
Ron Aasheim, communications administrator with FWP, told NewWest today that the majority of calls the agency is fielding about the attacks are from people who feel the bears should not be held in captivity. “It’s overwhelming,” he said, noting that it seems the farther people are from living in bear country, the more they are inclined to think the bears should be released.
“You can’t release a bear who’s been involved in an attack like this, who’s bitten and tasted human flesh,” he said. “You just can’t do that.”
DNA tests are still going on to determine that the sow, estimated to weigh nearly 400 pounds, is the bear who attacked the three tent campers, although a chipped tooth matching that of the captured grizzly was found at the campground and evidence of the attack was found in the bear’s scat.
FWP and other agencies are studying tracks and scat at the campsites to try and determine the involvement of the cubs, who are all about a year old. Regardless, Aasheim said, they’ve learned behavior from their mother that makes them a danger to humans. “We’re looking at zoos. They’re the perfect age for that. Barring that, they may have to be euthanized...We’re looking at all of our options,” he said.
An autopsy on the sow is planned once it’s conclusively determined she’s the attack bear. Researchers will look for an injury, illness or an abscess, anything that can help explain her odd behavior. But Aasheim says they may never determine why the bear attacked people the way she did. A preliminary investigation shows the campers followed food-storage rules and did not provoke the bear. They were all asleep. “It’s just weird. It’s rare, as you know,” he said. “Who knows why she acted this way. Maybe she had a bad day.”
Killed was Kevin Kammer, 48, of Grand Rapids, Mich. A Canadian woman camping for nearly two weeks with her husband was hospitalized in Cody, Wyo. A Colorado man camping with his girlfriend was also treated for injuries.
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Releasing them is not advisable. It's like in India--if a tiger goes into a village or near one and kills a human, that tiger must be shot. People meat must taste pretty good, eh?
Meanwhile, it might be worthwhile for someone to invent a cip-activated warning signal that would scare off any approaching animals to a campground. It would automatically turn on at night and go off after sunset. Works for dogs in urban areas--why not animals in forest areas?
I do not believe that the bear was in any way evil. People do evil things -- killing on purpose for sport or out of fear.
It is sad that a bear will loose her life and that her cubs may be killed as well.
As a race we have become so far removed from anything wild that we have lost whatever chance there ever was to communicate with and live in harmony with anything wild. What have we done to our world? The loss of several bears because we insist in trying to find space in their world and don't learn to understand and honor it leaves me with tears.
"As a race we have become so far removed from anything wild that we have lost whatever chance there ever was to communicate with and live in harmony with anything wild. What have we done to our world?" Agreed. Humans have gtossly overpopulated the world.
However, the same folks who want to preserve the animals also fight to preserve everyone's right to bear as many children as they want, regardless of the impact on the environment. Any time anyone advocates population limits, the opposition is hysterical.
It did have to do with how there is little evidence today that there is a desire for education about how we can do better when it comes to a willingness to understand anything you don't see on an i phone.
It seems to be easier to fear and hate than work together in the understanding that everything is connected.
Also - about the bear - A previous camper or campers could have left some evidence of food at the sites and no one knew about it.
No one deserved to die-including the bear.
The first Grizzly extinction in the Park was when they closed down the garbage dumps, tore down the bleachers set up to watch the bears go through garbage, and suddenly require the grizzly bears to go back to territories and natural food. Tough transition, and many bears were failures, and subsequently were killed for their inability to forage and not interact with humans and their intrusions.
Gradually the bears became wild bears again, and scattered to the far reaches of the Park and beyond. Then wolves were reintroduced. Easy pickings, those elk, for wolves, and they eat 12 months of the year. Bears 8 months at most. So now when the bears come out of hibernation, their superior olfactory senses geared to finding winter kill for the protein to get started on, there is little, and they have to fend off wolves all to often just to get something to eat until they can kill larger prey, and even then the wolves come around for their tithe. These bears were undersize, way underweight, and in a struggle to survive and make the gains they need to survive this coming winter hibernation. No need now. ESA listed animals were killed because they deemed to chew on human flesh. Or were at the least willing to bite and maul to protect territory and their right to scavenge the campground. Doing what comes naturally, as the Disney songs says. And they are killed for their being bears.
When you lose three females out of the grizzly gene pool, all young, the loss will resonate for twenty or more years. That is twenty or more bears that will never be. That is a loss that is hard to comprehend just so some idiot can camp under the stars in bear habitat. Our priorities are wrong. Either we are going to have Yellowstone be natural habitat, or it is the Big Zoo, which is what the public wants. If so, put them in vehicles and sleep them in buildings. Quit the bag in a tent deal. Quit the solitary and small group hikes. Leave the Park to its denizens, and the humans to their safe enclaves from which to observe the natural order in it comings and goings. The public doesn't want roads, and the bears don't want people. That is a fair trade. We do owe the bears some consideration for making their lives very difficult with the wolf reintroduction. Bears are leaving and wolves are leaving, and that was the objective, and if it is fair to foist wolves and out migrating bears on private land, it is certainly more than fair to have no people out and about being prey for apex predators. We don't belong there in the modern thinking, and should not be. After all, for 500 years the non Native American population has denied their existence on the land, and were determined to call it all Wilderness. Now is the chance. People in buses and hotels, and bears in the Park doing bear stuff.
The bears killed due to hunger,caused by humans introducing wolves into the ecosystem,which eat food the bears used to eat.
Wolves kill for no apparent reason, and do not eat what they have killed a lot of the time. They leave it, and coyotes and other scavengers eat the kill.
Wolves also have eaten what the bears used to eat in the early spring, winter killed deer and elk. There is no longer enough food to support the bear population at the current levels. These bears were all malnourished, and underweight.
The hungry bears smelled the campers food, and were willing to fight the humans for the food,it is easier for them to fight off humans sleeping in tents than for the bears to fight off a pack of wolves.
If people are going to continue camping in the area, then there has to be a reduction in both the bear and the wolf populations.
"Humans kill for the thrill. Nuf' said."
So do other species like wolves.
The biggest part of the problem is people camping where bears live who do not know how to set up camp in "bear country".
If you leave no food, food scraps or dirty dishes,pots,pans etc. around your camp, the bears have no reason to come near your camp. Store food suspended off the ground, tied to a smaller tree branch,away from the trunk of the tree,and bears can't get to it.
Bears that become used to humans have to be trapped,and relocated far from campgrounds,and they usually are no longer a problem. A few will keep returning,these are the ones that get euthanized. The parks and campgrounds were created for humans to use,not for bears,sometimes a bear has to be put down because it is a danger to humans.
That is what people have been doing since the first europeans came to North America. I don't see a big outcry to give the land back to the native Americans.
Stop and think, if a camper in a regular campground left his soap, hand lotion, toothpaste, etc in a back pack in camp he'd get find, but back country campers do not have a vehicle to elave them in, so they have all of that stuff with them and there is no way a bear can't smell it.
I was against introducing Canadian wolves from the start. Don't know about MT, but ID has always had some native timber wolves and it should have been left at that.
What the heck is the natural predator to keep the wolf population from exploding, except for the humans? I never hear or read of cougars getting wolves. Has anybody heard of it? Do these introduced animals have any natural predators?
All I am saying to my friends out west, if people think it, it is gonna happen.
We should be leaving bear and wolf legislation to the scientists, instead we are all going out and buying pepper spray and condemning others. Wildlife and humanity have been in each others faces since the beginning of time. There are no lions outside of Rome because of habitat destruction and fear of man and decimation. We have a special thing going here in America, called National Parks and wildlife travel corridors. Instead of worrying about bears and preying wolves, why not worry about a moratorium on building in wilderness areas and restoring developed land into parks and recreation areas where animals and humans can both prosper?
The wolves are being used to try to destroy ranching in this part of the country. They reproduce very rapidly, some packs had as many as 5 liters per year at the height of their increase, there is a possibility of 2 in one pack this year, I believe is all. They will fight to the death, but mostly they disperse which of course was the whole idea. I see on todays news that one pack killed a guard dog outside of Evanston, WY, one of the larger towns in the state. I don't know of anything that can successfully fight back against a wolf pack.
Incidently the wolf like animal killed just outside of Yellowstoen when it was mistaken did not match wolves, dogs, or coyotes for DNA. Since it was a 2 year old, it stands to reason that there were others, including the wolf photographed in the park prior to the introduction.
Then the cry was that's "not enough wolves" as it still is today, when we probably have 3-5000 of them. Teh numbers you read are only those physically counted, no estimates like all other wildlife.
Speaking of grizzly bears, our local public lib. just got this book, in case anyone would be interested:
Blindsided: Surviving a Grizzly Attack and Still Loving the Great Bear By Jim Cole, with Tim Vandehey. St Martins Press.
Cheers all---enjoy the wolves.
This grizzly and her cubs were starving, she was about 60% of her low normal weight, the cubs were less than half, and have not even shed winter coats. There is not enough food for the truly endangered grizzlies, and a sow with cubs, nor even a big boar for that matter, are no match for a pack of wolves.
The enviros do not care, their ability to control other people's lives and gain power and money from lawsuits are the only thing they care about. We were supposed to have 10 packs/100 wolves in each of the three states. They lied. At no point have the enviros kept their word in anything. There is no number nor any amount of destruction to humans or other wildlife that is adequate for them.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128825639
A grizzly bear that preyed on three campers outside Yellowstone National Park was underweight but not starving, and it was in an area with ample natural food supplies, wildlife officials said Monday as they worked to figure out why the animal attacked.
With the necropsy on the female grizzly still being analyzed, officials had no explanation for what caused the bear to rampage through a campground Wednesday with cubs in tow.
"Trying to make some connection between body size of a bear and strange behavior is a stretch," said Chris Servheen, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist coordinating the investigation.
Todd, I know what you are getting at. You are one of those nimrods who want to believe the grizzly attacked the campers because it was starving because it couldn't find food because supposedly the wolves wiped out the food right? You people are so predictable.
You are right, the 150 wolves never happened, that was an OFFER by the 3 states to sweeten the pot to get them delisted. I suspect the enviros were laughing their heads off knowing they could count on Malloy to keep them in charge of our land in perpetuity. The original number that would trigger delisting that is mentioned in the decision to introduce Canadian wolves is 300 total for the 3 states. It was a lie, 3000 are not enough now. Wolves are not and never were in danger of extinction, there are 10s of thousands on this continent alone.
Part of the problem is the money awarded to these groups tax free for winning. They bill the American taxpayer up to $800 per hour for their time raping us. Collectively environmental groups are raking in millions, and they do not have to account for it nor pay taxes on it. Read the 990s for your favorite group, realize how much they take in, notice how little accountability they have for where it goes.
One other thing Todd, the supposed deal between the states to each have only 150 wolves in their states never happened. Any biologist will tell you 150 wolves in each state isn't even close to the amount needed. You people and your incorrect information.
not so fast there sparky, even Ed Bangs Wolf Recovery Coordinator U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service says the verdict is still out on that one
"Wolf Population Recovery-By every biological measure the NRM wolf population is fully recovered. Resident packs now appear to saturate suitable habitat in the core recovery areas and dispersing wolves routinely travel between them and successfully bred. Consequently, genetic diversity in the NRM remains very high. The 3 subpopulations function as a single large NRM metapopulation (Figure I). Lone dispersing wolves have also traveled beyond the core recovery areas and some of them have bred. Otllers have gone into most adjacent states. Numerous research projects are underway examining: wolfpopulation dynamics, predator-prey interactions, wolf interactions with otller wildlife species, wolf diseases and parasites, wolf population genetics, possible wolf-caused trophic cascades, and livestock depredation by wolves. Biological restoration of wolves to the NRM was maintained. Nunlerous scientific papers were published about wolves in the NRM. State, tribal, and others are in preparation. USFWS, state and tribal management maintained a fully recovered wolf population in the NRM DPS."
the research is not published yet but UCLA as well as the university of wyoming are due to release their findings this winter saying that 300 total for the 3 states is actually more than what is needed. the science of wolf conductivity is really pretty simple when you consider the range a wolf will travel to find a breeding partner.
http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/wolf/post-delisting-wolf-monitoring/doc20100428072425.pdf
looks like the origional numbers by the delphi 15 were correct at 150 wolves and 15 breeding pairs
We all now know what your views are, so RIP!
Geez!
What an insane world we live in when so many arm-chair "naturalists" can kick back and blithely say, "Sure, let the bears eat people whose only crime was wanting to enjoy nature. That's what bears do."
So, how about Elora Petrasek--the 6-year-old little girl who was killed by a bear in Tennessee? Nothing wrong with that in your eyes?
Or 93-year-old Adelia Maestras Trujillo, who was savagely mauled to death in her own home when a bear broke in?
Or 5-month-old, Ester Schwimmer, who was snatched from a stroller on the front porch of her Fallsburg, New York residence and killed in front of her horrified parents?
I suppose they were "just in the wrong place at the wrong time?" I'm sure a few you will say, "Oh, well, that's different." No it isn't. It doesn't matter where someone is murdered. What matters is that steps are taken to make damn certain the murderer doesn't strike again.
You can't simply trap a killer bear and move it. Bears are territorial. "Problem" bears have been trapped multiple times near the same spot they have been trapped before after being transported far out into the wilderness; they simply return "home." Trapping and relocating is not a solution for killer bears. Put them in a zoo? Quite a threat to the workers who have to take care of them and clean up their areas and maintain the bear's health, wouldn't you say? Would you want your daughter taking care of a bear who had killed someone else's son or daughter? How about if we just give the bear to you? You like animals more than people, you can take care of it.
So, it's alright, in your eyes, for a mother bear to kill a human whom she, (mistakenly), believes a threat to her family, yet it isn't alright for humans to do the same?
You people justify your warped delusions with irrelevant, soulless, statistics such as, "there are x number of humans, and y number of bears, therefore, humans are the problem," as if that somehow makes things hunky-dory.
Well, if those statistics bother you so much, I suggest you do something about it and stop breeding. Those of us who remain sane and harbor a love for our own species and children, instead of a demented, bitter hatred, would prefer it if you didn't.
Lead the way!
Sorry zbiker, but that is incorrect info. No biologist in the world will ever claim that 150 wolves in each state is enough. There was no deal made as some claim. Just grasping at things that aren't there. Pitiful bunch people like you are. Resorting to lies to push your agenda."
hi will
it is actually not my agenda, but be that as it may 4 uswf biologists as well as others are "claiming" that it is and they seem to have sound science behind them, as ed bangs stated in his report genetic conductivity is not to much of an issue for an animal that will disperse over 500+ miles to find a mate and become a breeding pair.
just to bring you up to speed actually their was/is a deal made as some claim. even as far back as the delphi 15's report to congress in oct of 1994. http://cpsp.cfans.umn.edu/Research/ResSum1-Wolf.pdf it is under congressional instruction that these numbers be used and it was under these regulations that (at least until 2008) the states were legally bound two uphold. in 2008 defenders of wildlife and others in an effort to stop wyoming from having a preditor zone raised the question of whether 150 wolves with 15 breeding pairs was sufficient.
what congress and the usfs had outlined was simply 10 breeding pairs as per the usfs and the northern rocky mountain wolf recovery team on august 3rd 1987
http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/wolf/NorthernRockyMountainWolfRecoveryPlan.pdf